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([2a02:908:1964:6740:aee1:2beb:2fd0:abbc]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id n14sm9550562wra.75.2019.08.23.07.21.47 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 23 Aug 2019 07:21:48 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: Lacie Rugged USB3-FW does not work with UAS From: Julian Sikorski To: Oliver Neukum , linux-usb@vger.kernel.org References: <1566567572.8347.54.camel@suse.com> Openpgp: preference=signencrypt Autocrypt: addr=belegdol@gmail.com; prefer-encrypt=mutual; keydata= mQENBE40CmIBCACj+gI1pIMD0VGrZD4ugde8f3usLc0OE0OnPDXjqelxsC3B/x9BFoQrzfnP qJEtcB6F4V5MuEYutnteeuFsIkLHx6UIe9vr1Ze01XtN7Emsya/AKXaEcXYzUUjVmWn1NjJF ZlX0ML3mIQPERBDEY/aXAj7cVDGvkFVeKWIWE5KRqQWV2rYo0nizZTRYGB0z6KpMninG4hqF KvvpzhDS5ZnxijEYs0YAx0QllI4LjLTH3xLuYMnSbHzFRBh9zUsMttMnZdCudLZC6ZllkjtM ov/kIO35P5ygFJ9xlLyxMFkhXsARDWe3qwJCEHfJgtcblQD/LHuY200fTmrbwTK9Q4uNABEB AAG0JEp1bGlhbiBTaWtvcnNraSA8YmVsZWdkb2xAZ21haWwuY29tPokBOAQTAQIAIgUCTjQK YgIbAwYLCQgHAwIGFQgCCQoLBBYCAwECHgECF4AACgkQLdUZIcIlWSuFYwf+J5lKOXWz+FJW Vn4b8Q237R/SOlZVwVfT9u/EjxGkploecihuzRadwXDMu030zdgo0m4lwEubOD5eMvzpBSYu Dc3fDPT/T5/O7avybt2w83hptPuwU4O0EmNrkgr6pHql1nxEvBpeB8KkJnexJww95Kl1YmBX c1kdRrAShNxiVQDpPnskGtnfK2eTqyuyhECApIVLxMIX5IsqGCpslRUR6e90iHd591iJgRT+ Ji74QjkCQzJJVcKbX5T7HzbUd6mmkZjNbtog3g6WEPkI4Qdw+ZeDlSViN/SKPS2ptMMzxCOT neVuw3c6qM/VUo6AUTPSl+1c1rO2X7ZY5/Z9dCMP9rkBDQRONApiAQgAmurakWU/VVEKiPcM o5IsActeWERRTxgUXmliSp02YtBLYwOBQ6WUmJyhywOR8s3Wh93cHEPgEPI/n+cfytNxvpol liSXp3PZGJAmBSIq13d1lDYJBzDzNjUz6dj9YMV56zcsWbYF25grXbPY4acy/5RQXHWjQ4R9 dtGCMd48dhMH6O0DvsiriRxJQrcXz0mgLSi79KVns4VgIuUuPCwPyF1zNUBs/srbgTuL+On0 GjbK40GnJq/Zw2LhEGeicp0npoc4jshgVTtUXRQrGo04plJNpNg9Tl1UIbsHrjA1qz9yo8GR 4MLgXzcyfM6h+wz6qC8eI7jx4VEZxMhXtalvywARAQABiQEfBBgBAgAJBQJONApiAhsMAAoJ EC3VGSHCJVkrpl0IAJJd8qETlL0XzNZsguk8LwXi0c++iTTbotw/zn1f7CgGsZErm58KqNhR UltAZvK+lOclNPbZRsGzoEdg4TIvSymWVLN6jyblhcqH4G9mxmf6QOLvYR5I02UQiIbKvTvv mFA8bgr2vXPFc8rBmFXrwyC3DOjfrnz23kGattsFWbRA2OBq7bp/05JVoMb4QRA2TIbbvsyQ g0MMs9VldhdVfZcFqU2qKwQs8fBr8BD+OfPeiYndJV4GnfYhK692viMjv/+dgOvYcEgtlFaJ TLeiWvwUUxJ7ai45p+gCHXUYPGwrH4Dm2HAw61vUDkbT5pVOeGlFsvtOVEajnQX+MOV93l4= Message-ID: <0eaecb64-4c67-110d-8493-31dd7fd58759@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2019 16:21:47 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-GB Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: linux-usb-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-usb@vger.kernel.org W dniu 23.08.2019 o 15:43, Julian Sikorski pisze: > W dniu 23.08.2019 o 15:39, Oliver Neukum pisze: >> Am Freitag, den 23.08.2019, 15:31 +0200 schrieb Julian Sikorski: >>> it appears that lacie rugged usb3-fw is not compatible with UAS. >>> I have just connected my few years old Lacie Rugged USB3-FW to my new >>> desktop PC to see if the backups I have been creating on the laptop can >>> actually be restored. >> >> Hi, >> >> does that mean that we have a regression? How did you create those >> backups? >> >> Regards >> Oliver >> > Hi, > > it is not a regression to the best of my understanding. The backups were > created on another machine using the same uas blacklist quirk. > I for some reason never reported this properly and have been using the > workaround for years now. The issue only popped back up after I tried to > connect the drive to a new PC. > > Best regards, > Julian > Hi, I did some further digging regarding whether this is a regression: the quirk file on the laptop is from 15 July 2014. The machine is from ca. May 2011. Looking through my earlier posts to linux-usb it appears that the addition of the quirk is related to this thread: https://marc.info/?l=linux-usb&m=140537519907935&w=2 At the same time, back in 2011, I reported that the drive was working after some fixes: https://marc.info/?l=linux-usb&m=132276407611433&w=2 Summing up, if this is a regression, it is not a recent one. Moreover, as the problem appears with two machines of mine and for two other users, it seems more likely related to the usb drive and not to the controller. Best regards, Julian