From: Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
To: Mika Westerberg <mika.westerberg@linux.intel.com>
Cc: linux-usb@vger.kernel.org,
Andreas Noever <andreas.noever@gmail.com>,
Michael Jamet <michael.jamet@intel.com>,
Yehezkel Bernat <YehezkelShB@gmail.com>,
Rajmohan Mani <rajmohan.mani@intel.com>,
Nicholas Johnson <nicholas.johnson-opensource@outlook.com.au>,
Lukas Wunner <lukas@wunner.de>,
Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>,
Mario.Limonciello@dell.com,
Anthony Wong <anthony.wong@canonical.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 00/22] thunderbolt: Add support for USB4
Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2019 14:49:54 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20191001124954.GI2954373@kroah.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20191001113830.13028-1-mika.westerberg@linux.intel.com>
On Tue, Oct 01, 2019 at 02:38:08PM +0300, Mika Westerberg wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I'm sending this as RFC because the series is still missing important
> features such as power management so not ready for merging. However, I
> think it is good to get any early feedback from the community. We are
> working to add support for the missing features.
>
> USB4 is the public specification of Thunderbolt 3 protocol and can be
> downloaded here:
>
> https://www.usb.org/sites/default/files/USB4%20Specification_1.zip
>
> USB4 is about tunneling different protocols over a single cable (in the
> same way as Thunderbolt). The current USB4 spec supports PCIe, Display Port
> and USB 3.x, and also software based protocols such as networking between
> domains (hosts).
>
> So far PCs have been using firmware based Connection Manager and Apple
> systems have been using software based one. A Connection Manager is the
> entity that handles creation of different tunnel types through the USB4
> (and Thunderbolt) fabric. With USB4 the plan is to have software based
> Connection Manager everywhere but some early systems will also support
> firmware to allow OS downgrade for example.
>
> Current Linux Thunderbolt driver supports both "modes" and can detect which
> one to use dynamically.
>
> This series first adds support for Thunderbolt 3 devices to the software
> connection manager and then extends that to support USB4 compliant hosts
> and devices (this applies to both firmware and software based connection
> managers). With this series the following features are supported also for
> USB4 compliant devices:
>
> - PCIe tunneling
> - Display Port tunneling
> - USB 3.x tunneling
> - P2P networking (implemented in drivers/net/thunderbolt.c)
> - Host and device NVM firmware upgrade
>
> We also add two new sysfs attributes under each device that expose link
> speed and width to userspace. The rest of the userspace ABI stays the same.
>
> I'm including Linux USB folks as well because USB4 is officially coming
> from USB-IF which puts us on same boat now.
>
> While I changed the user visible Kconfig string to mention "USB4" (the
> Kconfig option is still CONFIG_THUNDERBOLT), I'm wondering whether we
> should move the whole Thunderbolt driver under drivers/usb/thunderbolt as
> well?
Looks "interesting", nice work!
I stopped at patch "Add initial support for USB4" as I don't think we
want to add USB4 code to a system that we know does not have it, right?
Everything up to then is just "normal" thunderbolt, and with the
exception of a few minor comments, all look fine to me.
I didn't actually read the USB4 patch just yet, as I figured we needed
to argue about that some more :)
thanks,
greg k-h
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2019-10-01 12:50 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 95+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2019-10-01 11:38 [RFC PATCH 00/22] thunderbolt: Add support for USB4 Mika Westerberg
2019-10-01 11:38 ` [RFC PATCH 01/22] thunderbolt: Introduce tb_switch_is_icm() Mika Westerberg
2019-10-01 12:10 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2019-10-01 12:46 ` Mika Westerberg
2019-10-01 13:36 ` Mario.Limonciello
2019-10-01 13:48 ` Mika Westerberg
2019-10-01 13:50 ` Mario.Limonciello
2019-10-01 13:52 ` Mika Westerberg
2019-10-01 11:38 ` [RFC PATCH 02/22] thunderbolt: Log switch route string on config read/write timeout Mika Westerberg
2019-10-01 11:38 ` [RFC PATCH 03/22] thunderbolt: Log warning if adding switch fails Mika Westerberg
2019-10-01 12:18 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2019-10-01 12:48 ` Mika Westerberg
2019-10-01 11:38 ` [RFC PATCH 04/22] thunderbolt: Make tb_sw_write() take const parameter Mika Westerberg
2019-10-01 11:38 ` [RFC PATCH 05/22] thunderbolt: Add helper macros to iterate over switch ports Mika Westerberg
2019-10-02 14:17 ` Oliver Neukum
2019-10-02 14:28 ` Mika Westerberg
2019-10-06 12:15 ` Lukas Wunner
2019-10-01 11:38 ` [RFC PATCH 06/22] thunderbolt: Add support for lane bonding Mika Westerberg
2019-10-01 12:38 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2019-10-01 12:53 ` Mika Westerberg
2019-10-02 14:21 ` Oliver Neukum
2019-10-02 14:30 ` Mika Westerberg
2019-10-03 8:25 ` Oliver Neukum
2019-10-03 8:53 ` Mika Westerberg
2019-10-01 11:38 ` [RFC PATCH 07/22] thunderbolt: Add default linking between ports if not provided by DROM Mika Westerberg
2019-10-01 12:39 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2019-10-01 13:14 ` Mika Westerberg
2019-10-01 11:38 ` [RFC PATCH 08/22] thunderbolt: Add downstream PCIe port mappings for Alpine and Titan Ridge Mika Westerberg
2019-10-01 12:40 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2019-10-01 13:27 ` Mika Westerberg
2019-10-01 11:38 ` [RFC PATCH 09/22] thunderbolt: Convert basic adapter register names to follow the USB4 spec Mika Westerberg
2019-10-01 12:41 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2019-10-01 13:28 ` Mika Westerberg
2019-10-01 11:38 ` [RFC PATCH 10/22] thunderbolt: Convert PCIe adapter register names to use USB4 names Mika Westerberg
2019-10-01 12:42 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2019-10-01 11:38 ` [RFC PATCH 11/22] thunderbolt: Convert DP adapter register names to follow the USB4 spec Mika Westerberg
2019-10-01 12:42 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2019-10-01 11:38 ` [RFC PATCH 12/22] thunderbolt: Add Display Port CM handshake for Titan Ridge devices Mika Westerberg
2019-10-01 12:44 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2019-10-01 13:30 ` Mika Westerberg
2019-10-01 11:38 ` [RFC PATCH 13/22] thunderbolt: Add Display Port adapter pairing and resource management Mika Westerberg
2019-10-01 11:38 ` [RFC PATCH 14/22] thunderbolt: Add bandwidth management for Display Port tunnels Mika Westerberg
2019-10-01 11:38 ` [RFC PATCH 15/22] thunderbolt: Make tb_find_port() available to other files Mika Westerberg
2019-10-01 11:38 ` [RFC PATCH 16/22] thunderbolt: Call tb_eeprom_get_drom_offset() from tb_eeprom_read_n() Mika Westerberg
2019-10-01 11:38 ` [RFC PATCH 17/22] thunderbolt: Add initial support for USB4 Mika Westerberg
2019-10-01 12:47 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2019-10-01 13:09 ` Mika Westerberg
2019-10-01 14:53 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2019-10-01 14:59 ` Mario.Limonciello
2019-10-01 15:13 ` Mika Westerberg
2019-10-01 15:22 ` Greg KH
2019-10-01 15:32 ` Mika Westerberg
2019-10-01 15:07 ` Mika Westerberg
2019-10-01 15:19 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2019-10-01 15:26 ` Mika Westerberg
2019-10-01 16:27 ` Oliver Neukum
2019-10-02 8:30 ` Mika Westerberg
2019-10-02 8:39 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2019-10-02 8:49 ` Mika Westerberg
2019-10-01 17:05 ` Mario.Limonciello
2019-10-01 18:14 ` Mario.Limonciello
2019-10-02 8:39 ` Mika Westerberg
2019-10-02 15:09 ` Mario.Limonciello
2019-10-02 15:36 ` Yehezkel Bernat
2019-10-02 16:00 ` Mario.Limonciello
2019-10-03 8:00 ` Mika Westerberg
2019-10-03 14:41 ` Mario.Limonciello
2019-10-04 7:54 ` Mika Westerberg
2019-10-04 8:07 ` Yehezkel Bernat
2019-10-04 8:19 ` Mika Westerberg
2019-10-04 11:19 ` Yehezkel Bernat
2019-10-04 14:05 ` Mario.Limonciello
2019-10-04 14:19 ` Mario.Limonciello
2019-10-04 14:21 ` Mika Westerberg
[not found] ` <1570201357.2.0@kellner.me>
2019-10-04 15:16 ` Mika Westerberg
2019-10-04 15:22 ` Christian Kellner
2019-10-02 8:34 ` Mika Westerberg
2019-10-02 15:04 ` Mario.Limonciello
2019-10-01 11:38 ` [RFC PATCH 18/22] thunderbolt: Make tb_switch_find_cap() available to other files Mika Westerberg
2019-10-01 11:38 ` [RFC PATCH 19/22] thunderbolt: Add support for Time Management Unit Mika Westerberg
2019-10-02 16:52 ` Mani, Rajmohan
2019-10-03 8:01 ` Mika Westerberg
2019-10-01 11:38 ` [RFC PATCH 20/22] thunderbolt: Add support for USB tunnels Mika Westerberg
2019-10-03 8:42 ` Oliver Neukum
2019-10-03 8:52 ` Mika Westerberg
2019-10-01 11:38 ` [RFC PATCH 21/22] thunderbolt: Update documentation with the USB4 information Mika Westerberg
2019-10-01 14:17 ` Mario.Limonciello
2019-10-01 14:21 ` Mika Westerberg
2019-10-01 11:38 ` [RFC PATCH 22/22] thunderbolt: Do not start firmware unless asked by the user Mika Westerberg
2019-10-01 14:43 ` Mario.Limonciello
2019-10-01 14:58 ` Mika Westerberg
2019-10-01 16:53 ` Mario.Limonciello
2019-10-02 8:48 ` Mika Westerberg
2019-10-01 12:49 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman [this message]
2019-10-01 13:42 ` [RFC PATCH 00/22] thunderbolt: Add support for USB4 Mika Westerberg
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