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From: "Luis R. Rodriguez" <lrodriguez@atheros.com>
To: Derek Smithies <derek@indranet.co.nz>
Cc: Bruno Randolf <br1@einfach.org>,
	"bob@bobcopeland.com" <bob@bobcopeland.com>,
	"ath5k-devel@lists.ath5k.org" <ath5k-devel@lists.ath5k.org>,
	"linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org" <linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linville@tuxdriver.com" <linville@tuxdriver.com>
Subject: Re: [ath5k-devel] [PATCH 00/10] ANI for ath5k
Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 14:13:11 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100325211311.GG7651@tux> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.00.1003261001530.24989@kauri.acheron.indranet.co.nz>

On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 02:10:55PM -0700, Derek Smithies wrote:
> Hi,
> On Thu, 25 Mar 2010, Bruno Randolf wrote:
> > This is ANI for ath5k.
> Fantastic!!
>   I have used your initial ani patch set here, and it did help througput 
> etc.
> >
> > - Improve beacon averaging algorithm for IBSS: Maybe we should keep track of
> >  the average RSSI on a per-node basis and use the minimum of those in order
> >  not to loose far away nodes? The other option would be to limit the
> >  parameters we control similar to AP mode.
> 
> We have talked about this before. I thought that we agreed 
> that adhoc nodes may
>    a)be activated at any time
>    b)be positioned at an unknown distance apart
> 
> it therefore makes no sense to average the RSSI over the current nodes.
> If all the current nodes in the network are close by, the ani algorithm 
> will wind the sensitivity down. Consequently, if a remote node is 
> started, it will not be able to connect. Yet, the remote node should 
> have been able to connect as the slot times etc were long enough, 
> and the link budget is fine...
> 
> So yes, the only way to 
> > - Improve beacon averaging algorithm for IBSS:
> is to turn ani off. which means the issue you raised else where of 
> providing reasonable userland controls (not via debugfs) becomes 
> important.

If ANI helps IBSS so much then why not just default to turning it
off within the driver?

  Luis

  reply	other threads:[~2010-03-25 21:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-03-25  5:48 [PATCH 00/10] ANI for ath5k Bruno Randolf
2010-03-25  5:49 ` [PATCH 01/10] ath5k: remove static calibration interval variable Bruno Randolf
2010-03-25  5:49 ` [PATCH 02/10] ath5k: remove the use of SWI interrupt Bruno Randolf
2010-03-25  5:49 ` [PATCH 03/10] ath5k: optimize ath5k_hw_calibration_poll Bruno Randolf
2010-03-25  5:49 ` [PATCH 04/10] ath5k: move ath5k_hw_calibration_poll to base.c Bruno Randolf
2010-03-25  5:49 ` [PATCH 05/10] ath5k: keep beacon RSSI average Bruno Randolf
2010-03-25  5:49 ` [PATCH 06/10] ath5k: initialize default noise floor Bruno Randolf
2010-03-25  5:49 ` [PATCH 07/10] ath5k: simplify MIB counters Bruno Randolf
2010-03-25  5:49 ` [PATCH 08/10] ath5k: update phy errors codes Bruno Randolf
2010-03-25  5:49 ` [PATCH 09/10] ath5k: add capability flag for phyerror counters Bruno Randolf
2010-03-25  5:49 ` [PATCH 10/10] ath5k: Adaptive Noise Immunity (ANI) Implementation Bruno Randolf
2010-03-25 10:59   ` Joerg Pommnitz
2010-03-26  0:18     ` Bruno Randolf
2010-03-29  2:02   ` [ath5k-devel] " Bob Copeland
2010-03-29  2:26     ` Bruno Randolf
2010-03-25 21:10 ` [ath5k-devel] [PATCH 00/10] ANI for ath5k Derek Smithies
2010-03-25 21:13   ` Luis R. Rodriguez [this message]
2010-03-26  0:27     ` Bruno Randolf
2010-03-26  0:44       ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2010-03-26  0:53         ` Bruno Randolf
2010-03-26  1:06           ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2010-03-26  1:21       ` Derek Smithies
2010-03-26  1:32         ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2010-03-26  1:46         ` Bruno Randolf
2010-03-26 20:34           ` Derek Smithies
2010-03-27  5:18             ` Bruno Randolf

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