"EU" is neither a country, nor a valid 802.11 country code. I did a quick look-up from the 802.11-2012 standard: >> dot11CountryString OBJECT-TYPE ... This attribute identifies the country or noncountry entity in which the station is operating. If it is a country, the first two octets of this string is the two character country code as described in document ISO/IEC 3166-1. The third octet is one of the following: ... 4. an ASCII 'X' character, if the station is operating under a noncountry entity. The first two octets of the noncountry entity is two ASCII 'XX' characters. << https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_3166-1_alpha-2#Exceptional_reservations We may consider internally synthesizing an EU regulatory domain by intersecting the constraints of all EU member countries, so at least we have something better than "00" (I guess this is what devices fall back to when they see an unknown country). I have two thoughts on such automated declaration of harmonization that you propose: in general, many years could pass between ratification and implementation. RegDB should always consider what has already been implemented in the current point in time - this is why we link to a public announcement about successful implementation in db.txt. You may think that we may safely rely on having implemented such decades-old rules, but beware that new rules can come out any year which can either give or take away channels or alter power constraints. Also, this is just from the top of my head, but I think harmonized member states may allow for more channels than agreed upon, but not less. I.e., after all harmonized uses have been allocated, they may decide to open up some of their private allocations as well. Let me share my experience in Hungary according to a recent survey (mostly inside UPC coverage, so it is a bit biased). I've only seen UPC's Compal devices emit EU (attached, I've resolved RT2860 boards according to fingerprints), along with HU, NL or BE, so I would identify this as a firmware glitch instead. Their Hitron and Technicolor offering advertises GB and DE respectively. Most of their devices are constructed and configured to transmit above regulated power levels in order to extend the reach of their in-house network. The Compal one also emits duplicate conflicting information elements as well, so I wouldn't take them seriously (attached). The primary real country IE I've observed other than UPC's EU glitch is HU, then comes Telekom's Sagemcom DE glitch, followed by Digi's "#a" glitch. People leaving their country settings at their device default is really blending into the noise compared to these (GB/UK/FR on D-Link, DE on Huawei and C7/C20/C1200/C5400, US on most TP-Link/Tenda, FR on Asus). On Tue, Oct 29, 2019 at 4:08 PM Emil Petersky wrote: > > Hi Seth, > > it seems, that EU domain is advertised by APs/Routers here in Europe. > I know, that many clients use EU domain (at least internally in firmware) as well. > I would like to add it and use it along with setting for individual EU members. > > I've made statistic of one WiFi scan in an apartment house in Vienna (Austria). > Results are: > 35 x EU (Mostly UPC/Ralink Access points) > 30 x no region info > 7 x AT > 3 x DE > 2 x NL > > Thanks and best regards, > > Emil > > > > > > On 29/10/2019 14:08, Seth Forshee wrote: > > On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 11:55:07AM +0200, Emil Petersky wrote: > >> Create entry for united European region, as usage of frequency bands > >> is harmonized over EU and almost all CEPT countries as well. > >> > >> All EU countries and almost all CEPT countries accepted decisions > >> 2005/513/EC (5GHz RLAN, EN 301 893) > >> and 2006/771/EC (amended by 2008/432/EC, Short-Range Devices, EN 300 440) > >> EU decision 2005/513/EC: > >> https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/?uri=CELEX:02005D0513-20070213 > >> EU decision 2006/771/EC: > >> https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/?uri=CELEX:02008D0432-20080611 > >> Harmonized CEPT countries: > >> https://www.ecodocdb.dk/download/25c41779-cd6e/Rec7003e.pdf > >> Such decision make sense to create united European region (EU) in regdb > >> > >> United region for EU in regdb will enable much easier handling of proper > >> wlan parameters on embedded devices sold across the Europe. > > I'm a little curious about this one. I do agree that it would simplify > > things, but is an EU contry code something standard that wireless APs > > generally will advertise, or that clients will understand? > > > > And we do still have all the individual countries to maintain. Maybe it > > would make sense to define an EU region as rules that countries could > > inherit, and then have rules for any deviations from the common EU > > rules. Thoughts? > > > > Thanks, > > Seth > > > -- > Emil Petersky > > ________________________________________________________________________ > > StreamUnlimited Engineering GmbH > High Tech Campus Vienna, Gutheil-Schoder-Gasse 10, 1100 Vienna, Austria > Office: +43 1 667 2002 4679 Fax: +43 1 667 2002 4401 > Mail to: emil.petersky@streamunlimited.com > Visit us: www.streamunlimited.com > > Meet us at: > CES - Las Vegas, 7 - 10 January, Westgate Hotel > ISE - Amsterdam, 11 - 14 February > > > _______________________________________________ > wireless-regdb mailing list > wireless-regdb@lists.infradead.org > http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless-regdb