From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S263258AbTLIHBc (ORCPT ); Tue, 9 Dec 2003 02:01:32 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S263267AbTLIHBc (ORCPT ); Tue, 9 Dec 2003 02:01:32 -0500 Received: from quechua.inka.de ([193.197.184.2]:65192 "EHLO mail.inka.de") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S263258AbTLIHBb (ORCPT ); Tue, 9 Dec 2003 02:01:31 -0500 Subject: Re: State of devfs in 2.6? From: Andreas Jellinghaus To: Greg KH Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org In-Reply-To: <20031208233428.GA31370@kroah.com> References: <200312081536.26022.andrew@walrond.org> <20031208154256.GV19856@holomorphy.com> <20031208233428.GA31370@kroah.com> Content-Type: text/plain Organization: small linux home Message-Id: <1070953338.7668.6.camel@simulacron> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2003 08:02:19 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Tue, 2003-12-09 at 00:34, Greg KH wrote: > You have 15 floppy devices connected to your box? All floppy devices > should show up in /sys/block. No, 16 devices are normal, sysfs has only one: aj@simulacron:~/torrent/j-tv/download$ ls /dev/floppy/ 0 0u1120 0u1600 0u1722 0u1760 0u1920 0u720 0u820 0u1040 0u1440 0u1680 0u1743 0u1840 0u360 0u800 0u830 aj@simulacron:~/torrent/j-tv/download$ find /sys/block/fd* -name dev /sys/block/fd0/dev Are those floppy devices obsolete? fdformat was the only app to use them anyway, I guess. (Not that I use my floppy, I simply noticed the change.) > > I wouldn't call udev deprecated, unless a newer kernel has the > > essential devices, too. > > You mean s/udev/devfs/ right? :) oops, sorry. > > and > > re-introducing makedev for devices not represented > > in sysfs doesn't sound very nice either. So 2.8.* might be a nice time > > frame for dropping devfs, or at least give sysfs and udev a few months > > to catch up on the issues mentioned. > > Regardless of the state of udev, devfs has insolvable problems and you > should not use it. End of story. how many bug reports did you see in the last three months of people having problems with devfs? I don't doubt the problems in theory, but but I simply haven't seen them happening. Most users seem quite happy. Andreas