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From: James Bottomley <jbottomley@parallels.com>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>, Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	"Hitoshi Mitake" <h.mitake@gmail.com>,
	Matthew Wilcox <matthew.r.wilcox@intel.com>,
	Roland Dreier <roland@purestorage.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	James Bottomley <jbottomley@parallels.com>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"hpa@linux.intel.com" <hpa@linux.intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] NVMe: Fix compilation on architecturs without readq/writeq
Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2012 01:05:56 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1328144756.2768.57.camel@dabdike.int.hansenpartnership.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+55aFw4F-02NxbQHmpy0KtXxKc9++HutgVXd7nGe0G7NqG+Gw@mail.gmail.com>

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On Wed, 2012-02-01 at 15:35 -0800, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 4:23 AM, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu> wrote:
> >
> > non-atomic sounds good to me too.
> 
> You both apparently missed the related discussion that some devices
> really do care about order, even if they don't care about atomicity.
> 
> So we'd actually have two versions of the header file, one
> little-endian, and one big-endian. Then the driver that knows it
> doesn't need the atomic 'readq()' that is always defined, but wants a
> low-bytes-first version would just do
> 
>    #include <linux/io64-little-endian.h>
> 
> (or "big-endian" if it wants to read/write high bits first). Most
> drivers probably don't care, but apparently NVMe does.

And this was about the point I concluded last time that it simply wasn't
worth it with the number of different possibilities for the primitives
and trying to come up with a sensible naming scheme ... it's just easier
to open code because then you get exactly what you meant.

Incidentally, the last time this came up was with mpt fusion: for a
write to a 64 bit register, it didn't care about order, but it did care
about interleaving as in if you write one half of a 64 bit register and
then write to another register, the 64 bit register effectively gets
written with zeros in the part you didn't write to, so we had to put a
spin lock in the open coded writeb/w/l/q() to make sure the card didn't
get interleaved writes.

James

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  reply	other threads:[~2012-02-02  1:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-01-20  1:01 [PATCH] NVMe: Fix compilation on architecturs without readq/writeq Matthew Wilcox
2012-01-20  1:21 ` Linus Torvalds
2012-01-20 17:43   ` Wilcox, Matthew R
2012-01-21  8:28   ` Ingo Molnar
2012-01-21 15:54     ` Hitoshi Mitake
2012-01-21 16:58       ` Ingo Molnar
2012-01-23 16:05         ` Hitoshi Mitake
2012-01-23 16:57           ` Linus Torvalds
2012-01-23 23:04             ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-01-29  8:02             ` Hitoshi Mitake
2012-01-31  3:03               ` Linus Torvalds
2012-01-31  3:05                 ` Linus Torvalds
2012-02-04 15:25                   ` Hitoshi Mitake
2012-01-31 11:58                 ` Alan Cox
2012-01-31 12:09                   ` Ingo Molnar
2012-01-31 12:18                     ` Alan Cox
2012-01-31 12:23                       ` Ingo Molnar
2012-02-01 23:35                         ` Linus Torvalds
2012-02-02  1:05                           ` James Bottomley [this message]
2012-02-02  1:15                             ` Linus Torvalds
2012-02-02 15:05                             ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-02-04 15:39                               ` Hitoshi Mitake
2012-02-05  6:53                                 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2012-02-05  7:01                                   ` Hitoshi Mitake
2012-02-04 15:34                             ` Hitoshi Mitake
2012-02-07  2:48                               ` Hitoshi Mitake
2012-02-04 15:24                 ` Hitoshi Mitake

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