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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, mingo@elte.hu,
	laijs@cn.fujitsu.com, dipankar@in.ibm.com,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, mathieu.desnoyers@polymtl.ca,
	josh@joshtriplett.org, niv@us.ibm.com, tglx@linutronix.de,
	rostedt@goodmis.org, Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu,
	dhowells@redhat.com, eric.dumazet@gmail.com, darren@dvhart.com,
	fweisbec@gmail.com, sbw@mit.edu, patches@linaro.org,
	"Paul E. McKenney" <paul.mckenney@linaro.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH tip/core/rcu 13/23] rcu: Control grace-period duration from sysfs
Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2012 16:15:30 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1346940930.18408.14.camel@twins> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1346350718-30937-13-git-send-email-paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>

On Thu, 2012-08-30 at 11:18 -0700, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> From: "Paul E. McKenney" <paul.mckenney@linaro.org>
> 
> Some uses of RCU benefit from shorter grace periods, while others benefit
> more from the greater efficiency provided by longer grace periods.
> Therefore, this commit allows the durations to be controlled from sysfs.
> There are two sysfs parameters, one named "jiffies_till_first_fqs" that
> specifies the delay in jiffies from the end of grace-period initialization
> until the first attempt to force quiescent states, and the other named
> "jiffies_till_next_fqs" that specifies the delay (again in jiffies)
> between subsequent attempts to force quiescent states.  They both default
> to three jiffies, which is compatible with the old hard-coded behavior.

A number of questions:

 - how do I know if my workload wants a longer or shorter forced qs
   period?
 - the above implies a measure of good/bad-ness associated with fqs,
   can one formulate this?
 - if we can, should we not do this 'automagically' and avoid burdening
   our already hard pressed sysads of the world with trying to figure
   this out?

Also, whatever made you want to provide this 'feature' in the first
place?
   

  parent reply	other threads:[~2012-09-06 14:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 85+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-08-30 18:18 [PATCH tip/core/rcu 0/23] Improvements to RT response on big systems and expedited functions Paul E. McKenney
2012-08-30 18:18 ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 01/23] rcu: Move RCU grace-period initialization into a kthread Paul E. McKenney
2012-08-30 18:18   ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 02/23] rcu: Allow RCU grace-period initialization to be preempted Paul E. McKenney
2012-09-02  1:09     ` Josh Triplett
2012-09-05  1:22       ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-08-30 18:18   ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 03/23] rcu: Move RCU grace-period cleanup into kthread Paul E. McKenney
2012-09-02  1:22     ` Josh Triplett
2012-09-06 13:34     ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-09-06 17:29       ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-08-30 18:18   ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 04/23] rcu: Allow RCU grace-period cleanup to be preempted Paul E. McKenney
2012-09-02  1:36     ` Josh Triplett
2012-08-30 18:18   ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 05/23] rcu: Prevent offline CPUs from executing RCU core code Paul E. McKenney
2012-09-02  1:45     ` Josh Triplett
2012-08-30 18:18   ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 06/23] rcu: Break up rcu_gp_kthread() into subfunctions Paul E. McKenney
2012-09-02  2:11     ` Josh Triplett
2012-09-06 13:39     ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-09-06 17:32       ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-09-06 18:49         ` Josh Triplett
2012-09-06 19:09           ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-09-06 20:30             ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-09-06 20:30           ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-08-30 18:18   ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 07/23] rcu: Provide OOM handler to motivate lazy RCU callbacks Paul E. McKenney
2012-09-02  2:13     ` Josh Triplett
2012-09-03  9:08     ` Lai Jiangshan
2012-09-05 17:45       ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-09-06 13:46     ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-09-06 13:52       ` Steven Rostedt
2012-09-06 17:41         ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-09-06 17:46           ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-09-06 20:32             ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-08-30 18:18   ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 08/23] rcu: Segregate rcu_state fields to improve cache locality Paul E. McKenney
2012-09-02  2:51     ` Josh Triplett
2012-08-30 18:18   ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 09/23] rcu: Move quiescent-state forcing into kthread Paul E. McKenney
2012-08-30 18:18   ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 10/23] rcu: Allow RCU quiescent-state forcing to be preempted Paul E. McKenney
2012-09-02  5:23     ` Josh Triplett
2012-08-30 18:18   ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 11/23] rcu: Adjust debugfs tracing for kthread-based quiescent-state forcing Paul E. McKenney
2012-09-02  6:05     ` Josh Triplett
2012-08-30 18:18   ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 12/23] rcu: Prevent force_quiescent_state() memory contention Paul E. McKenney
2012-09-02 10:47     ` Josh Triplett
2012-08-30 18:18   ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 13/23] rcu: Control grace-period duration from sysfs Paul E. McKenney
2012-09-03  9:30     ` Josh Triplett
2012-09-03  9:31       ` Josh Triplett
2012-09-06 14:15     ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2012-09-06 17:53       ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-09-06 18:28         ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-09-06 20:37           ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-08-30 18:18   ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 14/23] rcu: Remove now-unused rcu_state fields Paul E. McKenney
2012-09-03  9:31     ` Josh Triplett
2012-09-06 14:17     ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-09-06 18:02       ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-08-30 18:18   ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 15/23] rcu: Make rcutree module parameters visible in sysfs Paul E. McKenney
2012-09-03  9:32     ` Josh Triplett
2012-08-30 18:18   ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 16/23] rcu: Prevent initialization-time quiescent-state race Paul E. McKenney
2012-09-03  9:37     ` Josh Triplett
2012-09-05 18:19       ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-09-05 18:55         ` Josh Triplett
2012-09-05 19:49           ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-09-06 14:21         ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-09-06 16:18           ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-09-06 16:22             ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-08-30 18:18   ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 17/23] rcu: Fix day-zero grace-period initialization/cleanup race Paul E. McKenney
2012-09-03  9:39     ` Josh Triplett
2012-09-06 14:24     ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-09-06 18:06       ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-08-30 18:18   ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 18/23] rcu: Add random PROVE_RCU_DELAY to grace-period initialization Paul E. McKenney
2012-09-03  9:41     ` Josh Triplett
2012-09-06 14:27     ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-09-06 18:25       ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-08-30 18:18   ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 19/23] rcu: Adjust for unconditional ->completed assignment Paul E. McKenney
2012-09-03  9:42     ` Josh Triplett
2012-08-30 18:18   ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 20/23] rcu: Remove callback acceleration from grace-period initialization Paul E. McKenney
2012-09-03  9:42     ` Josh Triplett
2012-08-30 18:18   ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 21/23] rcu: Eliminate signed overflow in synchronize_rcu_expedited() Paul E. McKenney
2012-09-03  9:43     ` Josh Triplett
2012-08-30 18:18   ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 22/23] rcu: Reduce synchronize_rcu_expedited() latency Paul E. McKenney
2012-09-03  9:46     ` Josh Triplett
2012-08-30 18:18   ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 23/23] rcu: Simplify quiescent-state detection Paul E. McKenney
2012-09-03  9:56     ` Josh Triplett
2012-09-06 14:36     ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-09-06 20:01       ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-09-06 21:18         ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2012-09-06 21:31           ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-09-02  1:04   ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 01/23] rcu: Move RCU grace-period initialization into a kthread Josh Triplett
2012-09-06 13:32   ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-09-06 17:00     ` Paul E. McKenney

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