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From: Lu Baolu <baolu.lu@linux.intel.com>
To: Nadav Amit <nadav.amit@gmail.com>,
	"Longpeng (Mike,
	Cloud Infrastructure Service Product Dept.)" 
	<longpeng2@huawei.com>
Cc: baolu.lu@linux.intel.com, chenjiashang <chenjiashang@huawei.com>,
	"Tian, Kevin" <kevin.tian@intel.com>,
	"will@kernel.org" <will@kernel.org>,
	"iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org"
	<iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"alex.williamson@redhat.com" <alex.williamson@redhat.com>,
	"Gonglei (Arei)" <arei.gonglei@huawei.com>,
	David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>
Subject: Re: A problem of Intel IOMMU hardware ?
Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2021 10:31:32 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <14fe0083-cbff-884c-34db-ce3227e026f5@linux.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <55E334BA-C6D2-4892-9207-32654FBF4360@gmail.com>

Hi Nadav,

On 3/19/21 12:46 AM, Nadav Amit wrote:
> So here is my guess:
> 
> Intel probably used as a basis for the IOTLB an implementation of
> some other (regular) TLB design.
> 
> Intel SDM says regarding TLBs (4.10.4.2 “Recommended Invalidation”):
> 
> "Software wishing to prevent this uncertainty should not write to
> a paging-structure entry in a way that would change, for any linear
> address, both the page size and either the page frame, access rights,
> or other attributes.”
> 
> 
> Now the aforementioned uncertainty is a bit different (multiple
> *valid*  translations of a single address). Yet, perhaps this is
> yet another thing that might happen.
> 
>  From a brief look on the handling of MMU (not IOMMU) hugepages
> in Linux, indeed the PMD is first cleared and flushed before a
> new valid PMD is set. This is possible for MMUs since they
> allow the software to handle spurious page-faults gracefully.
> This is not the case for the IOMMU though (without PRI).
> 
> Not sure this explains everything though. If that is the problem,
> then during a mapping that changes page-sizes, a TLB flush is
> needed, similarly to the one Longpeng did manually.

I have been working with Longpeng on this issue these days. It turned
out that your guess is right. The PMD is first cleared but not flushed
before a new valid one is set. The previous entry might be cached in the
paging structure caches hence leads to disaster.

In __domain_mapping():

2352                                 /*
2353                                  * Ensure that old small page 
tables are
2354                                  * removed to make room for 
superpage(s).
2355                                  * We're adding new large pages, so 
make sure
2356                                  * we don't remove their parent tables.
2357                                  */
2358                                 dma_pte_free_pagetable(domain, 
iov_pfn, end_pfn,
2359 
largepage_lvl + 1);

I guess adding a cache flush operation after PMD switching should solve
the problem.

I am still not clear about this comment:

"
  This is possible for MMUs since they allow the software to handle
  spurious page-faults gracefully. This is not the case for the IOMMU
  though (without PRI).
"

Can you please shed more light on this?

Best regards,
baolu

  parent reply	other threads:[~2021-03-27  2:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-03-17  3:16 A problem of Intel IOMMU hardware ? Longpeng (Mike, Cloud Infrastructure Service Product Dept.)
2021-03-17  5:16 ` Lu Baolu
2021-03-17  9:40   ` Longpeng (Mike, Cloud Infrastructure Service Product Dept.)
2021-03-17 15:18   ` Alex Williamson
2021-03-18  2:58     ` Lu Baolu
2021-03-18  4:46       ` Longpeng (Mike, Cloud Infrastructure Service Product Dept.)
2021-03-18  7:48         ` Nadav Amit
2021-03-17  5:46 ` Nadav Amit
2021-03-17  9:35   ` Longpeng (Mike, Cloud Infrastructure Service Product Dept.)
2021-03-17 18:12     ` Nadav Amit
2021-03-18  3:03       ` Lu Baolu
2021-03-18  8:20       ` Longpeng (Mike, Cloud Infrastructure Service Product Dept.)
2021-03-18  8:27         ` Tian, Kevin
2021-03-18  8:38           ` Longpeng (Mike, Cloud Infrastructure Service Product Dept.)
2021-03-18  8:43             ` Tian, Kevin
2021-03-18  8:54               ` Longpeng (Mike, Cloud Infrastructure Service Product Dept.)
2021-03-18  8:56             ` Tian, Kevin
2021-03-18  9:25               ` Longpeng (Mike, Cloud Infrastructure Service Product Dept.)
2021-03-18 16:46                 ` Nadav Amit
2021-03-21 23:51                   ` Longpeng (Mike, Cloud Infrastructure Service Product Dept.)
2021-03-22  0:27                   ` Longpeng (Mike, Cloud Infrastructure Service Product Dept.)
2021-03-27  2:31                   ` Lu Baolu [this message]
2021-03-27  4:36                     ` Nadav Amit
2021-03-27  5:27                       ` Lu Baolu
2021-03-19  0:15               ` Lu Baolu

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