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From: "Kani, Toshi" <toshi.kani@hpe.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 00/10] Copy Offload in NVMe Fabrics with P2P PCI Memory
Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2018 17:38:58 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1520015040.2693.38.camel@hpe.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+55aFztf2D4NwEkRxnJkD6kK62CWKxmERbALMGoMgFEGLEJZA@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, 2018-03-02 at 08:57 -0800, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 2, 2018 at 8:22 AM, Kani, Toshi <toshi.kani@hpe.com> wrote:
> > 
> > FWIW, this thing is called MTRRs on x86, which are initialized by BIOS.
> 
> No.
> 
> Or rather, that's simply just another (small) part of it all - and an
> architected and documented one at that.
> 
> Like the page table caching entries, the memory type range registers
> are really just "secondary information". They don't actually select
> between PCIe and RAM, they just affect the behavior on top of that.
> 
> The really nitty-gritty stuff is not architected, and generally not
> documented outside (possibly) the BIOS writer's guide that is not made
> public.
> 
> Those magical registers contain details like how the DRAM is
> interleaved (if it is), what the timings are, where which memory
> controller handles which memory range, and what are goes to PCIe etc.
> 
> Basically all the actual *steering* information is very much hidden
> away from the kernel (and often from the BIOS too). The parts we see
> at a higher level are just tuning and tweaks.
> 
> Note: the details differ _enormously_ between different chips. The
> setup can be very different, with things like Knights Landing having
> the external cache that can also act as local memory that isn't a
> cache but maps at a different physical address instead etc. That's the
> kind of steering I'm talking about - at a low level how physical
> addresses get mapped to different cache partitions, memory
> controllers, or to the IO system etc.

Right, MRC code is not documented publicly, and it is very much CPU
dependent.  It programs address decoders and maps DRAMs to physical
address as you described.  MTRRs have nothing to do with this memory
controller setting.  That said, MTRRs specify CPU's memory access type,
such as UC and WB.

Thanks,
-Toshi

  parent reply	other threads:[~2018-03-02 17:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 124+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-02-28 23:39 [PATCH v2 00/10] Copy Offload in NVMe Fabrics with P2P PCI Memory Logan Gunthorpe
2018-02-28 23:39 ` [PATCH v2 01/10] PCI/P2PDMA: Support peer to peer memory Logan Gunthorpe
2018-03-01 17:37   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2018-03-01 18:55     ` Logan Gunthorpe
2018-03-01 23:00       ` Bjorn Helgaas
2018-03-01 23:06         ` Logan Gunthorpe
2018-03-01 23:14           ` Stephen  Bates
2018-03-01 23:45             ` Bjorn Helgaas
2018-02-28 23:39 ` [PATCH v2 02/10] PCI/P2PDMA: Add sysfs group to display p2pmem stats Logan Gunthorpe
2018-03-01 17:44   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2018-03-02  0:15     ` Logan Gunthorpe
2018-03-02  0:36       ` Dan Williams
2018-03-02  0:37         ` Logan Gunthorpe
2018-02-28 23:39 ` [PATCH v2 03/10] PCI/P2PDMA: Add PCI p2pmem dma mappings to adjust the bus offset Logan Gunthorpe
2018-03-01 17:49   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2018-03-01 19:36     ` Logan Gunthorpe
2018-02-28 23:40 ` [PATCH v2 04/10] PCI/P2PDMA: Clear ACS P2P flags for all devices behind switches Logan Gunthorpe
2018-03-01 18:02   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2018-03-01 18:54     ` Stephen  Bates
2018-03-01 21:21       ` Alex Williamson
2018-03-01 21:26         ` Logan Gunthorpe
2018-03-01 21:32         ` Stephen  Bates
2018-03-01 21:35           ` Jerome Glisse
2018-03-01 21:37             ` Logan Gunthorpe
2018-03-01 23:15       ` Bjorn Helgaas
2018-03-01 23:59         ` Logan Gunthorpe
2018-03-01 19:13     ` Logan Gunthorpe
2018-03-05 22:28       ` Bjorn Helgaas
2018-03-05 23:01         ` Logan Gunthorpe
2018-02-28 23:40 ` [PATCH v2 05/10] block: Introduce PCI P2P flags for request and request queue Logan Gunthorpe
2018-03-01 11:08   ` Sagi Grimberg
2018-02-28 23:40 ` [PATCH v2 06/10] IB/core: Add optional PCI P2P flag to rdma_rw_ctx_[init|destroy]() Logan Gunthorpe
2018-03-01 10:32   ` Sagi Grimberg
2018-03-01 17:16     ` Logan Gunthorpe
2018-02-28 23:40 ` [PATCH v2 07/10] nvme-pci: Use PCI p2pmem subsystem to manage the CMB Logan Gunthorpe
2018-03-05  1:33   ` Oliver
2018-03-05 16:00     ` Keith Busch
2018-03-05 17:10       ` Logan Gunthorpe
2018-03-05 18:02         ` Sinan Kaya
2018-03-05 18:09           ` Logan Gunthorpe
2018-03-06  0:49         ` Oliver
2018-03-06  1:14           ` Logan Gunthorpe
2018-03-06 10:40             ` Oliver
2018-03-05 19:57       ` Sagi Grimberg
2018-03-05 20:10         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2018-03-05 20:16           ` Logan Gunthorpe
2018-03-05 20:42           ` Keith Busch
2018-03-05 20:50             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2018-03-05 20:13         ` Logan Gunthorpe
2018-02-28 23:40 ` [PATCH v2 08/10] nvme-pci: Add support for P2P memory in requests Logan Gunthorpe
2018-03-01 11:07   ` Sagi Grimberg
2018-03-01 15:58     ` Stephen  Bates
2018-03-09  5:08       ` Bart Van Assche
2018-02-28 23:40 ` [PATCH v2 09/10] nvme-pci: Add a quirk for a pseudo CMB Logan Gunthorpe
2018-03-01 11:03   ` Sagi Grimberg
2018-02-28 23:40 ` [PATCH v2 10/10] nvmet: Optionally use PCI P2P memory Logan Gunthorpe
2018-03-01 11:03   ` Sagi Grimberg
2018-03-01 16:15     ` Stephen  Bates
2018-03-01 17:40     ` Logan Gunthorpe
2018-03-01 18:35       ` Sagi Grimberg
2018-03-01 18:42         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2018-03-01 19:01           ` Stephen  Bates
2018-03-01 19:27           ` Logan Gunthorpe
2018-03-01 22:45             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2018-03-01 22:56               ` Logan Gunthorpe
2018-03-01 23:00               ` Stephen  Bates
2018-03-01 23:20                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2018-03-01 23:29                   ` Logan Gunthorpe
2018-03-01 23:32                   ` Stephen  Bates
2018-03-01 23:49                 ` Keith Busch
2018-03-01 23:52                   ` Logan Gunthorpe
2018-03-01 23:53                   ` Stephen  Bates
2018-03-02 15:53                     ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-03-02 20:51                       ` Stephen  Bates
2018-03-01 23:57                   ` Stephen  Bates
2018-03-02  0:03                     ` Logan Gunthorpe
2018-03-02 16:18                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2018-03-02 17:10                       ` Logan Gunthorpe
2018-03-01 19:10         ` Logan Gunthorpe
2018-03-01  3:54 ` [PATCH v2 00/10] Copy Offload in NVMe Fabrics with P2P PCI Memory Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2018-03-01  3:56   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2018-03-01 18:04     ` Logan Gunthorpe
2018-03-01 20:29       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2018-03-01 20:55         ` Jerome Glisse
2018-03-01 21:03           ` Logan Gunthorpe
2018-03-01 21:10             ` Jerome Glisse
2018-03-01 21:15               ` Logan Gunthorpe
2018-03-01 21:25                 ` Jerome Glisse
2018-03-01 21:37               ` Stephen  Bates
2018-03-02 21:38               ` Stephen  Bates
2018-03-02 22:09                 ` Jerome Glisse
2018-03-05 20:36                   ` Stephen  Bates
2018-03-01 20:55         ` Logan Gunthorpe
2018-03-01 18:09     ` Stephen  Bates
2018-03-01 20:32       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2018-03-01 19:21     ` Dan Williams
2018-03-01 19:30       ` Logan Gunthorpe
2018-03-01 20:34       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2018-03-01 20:40         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2018-03-01 20:53           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2018-03-01 20:57             ` Logan Gunthorpe
2018-03-01 22:06             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2018-03-01 22:31               ` Linus Torvalds
2018-03-01 22:34                 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2018-03-02 16:22                   ` Kani, Toshi
2018-03-02 16:57                     ` Linus Torvalds
2018-03-02 17:34                       ` Linus Torvalds
2018-03-02 17:38                       ` Kani, Toshi [this message]
2018-03-01 21:37         ` Dan Williams
2018-03-01 21:45           ` Logan Gunthorpe
2018-03-01 21:57             ` Logan Gunthorpe
2018-03-01 23:00               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2018-03-01 23:19                 ` Logan Gunthorpe
2018-03-01 23:25                   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2018-03-02 21:44                     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2018-03-02 22:24                       ` Logan Gunthorpe
2018-03-01 23:26                   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2018-03-01 23:54                     ` Logan Gunthorpe
2018-03-01 21:03       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2018-03-01 21:11         ` Logan Gunthorpe
2018-03-01 21:18           ` Jerome Glisse
2018-03-01 21:22             ` Logan Gunthorpe
2018-03-01 10:31 ` Sagi Grimberg
2018-03-01 19:33   ` Logan Gunthorpe

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