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From: Dmitry Safonov <dima@arista.com>
To: "Theodore Y. Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, 0x7f454c46@gmail.com,
	Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] random: Omit double-printing ratelimit messages
Date: Wed, 16 May 2018 16:46:13 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1526485573.28243.30.camel@arista.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1526042463.28243.21.camel@arista.com>

On Fri, 2018-05-11 at 13:41 +0100, Dmitry Safonov wrote:
> On Thu, 2018-05-10 at 23:51 -0400, Theodore Y. Ts'o wrote:
> > On Thu, May 10, 2018 at 08:50:07PM +0100, Dmitry Safonov wrote:
> > > random uses __ratelimit() which calls ___ratelimit() with a
> > > function
> > > name. Depending on !RATELIMIT_MSG_ON_RELEASE it prints how many
> > > messages were suppressed every ratelimit interval (1 second for
> > > random)
> > > and flushes ratelimit_state::missed:
> > 
> > So the thing about the ratelimit system is that if you have a burst
> > of
> > 1,000,000 within the one second burst window, and then nothing ever
> > again, you will never see a message accounting for those 1,000,000
> > "callbacks" (which is a terrible wording; it just confuses people).
> > 
> > If you have a burst of 1,000,000 calls to ratelimit, and then a
> > month
> > goes by, and *then* a single call to __ratelimit is called by
> > printk,
> > only *the* does the message about the suppressed "callback" get
> > printed.
> 
> Yes, if the initialization time of driver is lesser than a second.
> If it's 1.1 sec - you'll have prints from ___ratelimit() and from
> your
> driver too. And they differ in format.
> 
> > So in the case of the random driver, once the random driver is
> > fully
> > intialized, there will never be a call to __ratelimit() for the
> > urandom ratelimit structures, so we manually print out the final
> > number of suppressed message so there is proper accounting for
> > them.
> 
> So, there is this flag, AFAICS, which perfectly fits your purpose
> RATELIMIT_MSG_ON_RELEASE which will omit printing how many messages
> were suppressed every interval of ___ratelimit(). And that will allow
> you to print total in the end.
> 
> > It is not a double-count.  If we didn't do that, those suppressed
> > warnings would never be mentioned by the kernel.
> 
> Yeah, but what you print is not total sum, it's since the last
> interval
> because without mentioned flag ___ratelimit() will flush missed
> counter
> and print "suppressed" message.
> They might even double if say other proccess has called
> get_random_bytes() got to ___ratelimit() and got preempted. This
> thread
> finishes initializing random driver and prints this not-proper-sum
> statistics, and when the code flow is back in the first context, it
> will print statistics again from ___ratelimit() function. 

So, does it make sense to you, Theodore?
If not - I'll just resend second patch rebasing and dropping this one.

-- 
Thanks,
             Dmitry

  reply	other threads:[~2018-05-16 15:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-05-10 12:52 [PATCH 0/2] ratelimit: Do not lose messages under limit Dmitry Safonov
2018-05-10 12:52 ` [PATCH 1/2] random: Omit double-printing ratelimit messages Dmitry Safonov
2018-05-10 18:19   ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2018-05-10 18:37     ` Dmitry Safonov
2018-05-10 19:40       ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2018-05-10 19:50         ` Dmitry Safonov
2018-05-11  3:51           ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2018-05-11 12:41             ` Dmitry Safonov
2018-05-16 15:46               ` Dmitry Safonov [this message]
2018-05-16 20:54                 ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2018-05-16 22:11                   ` Dmitry Safonov
2018-05-10 12:52 ` [PATCH 2/2] lib/ratelimit: Lockless ratelimiting Dmitry Safonov

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