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From: "Lin Ma" <linma@zju.edu.cn>
To: "Jamal Hadi Salim" <jhs@mojatatu.com>
Cc: xiyou.wangcong@gmail.com, jiri@resnulli.us, davem@davemloft.net,
	 edumazet@google.com, kuba@kernel.org, pabeni@redhat.com,
	 netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH net v1] net/sched: cls_api: complement tcf_tfilter_dump_policy
Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2023 10:09:06 +0800 (GMT+08:00)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1869ff03.57bb7.18cae2eb8ad.Coremail.linma@zju.edu.cn> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAM0EoMm5ruiBfJC1C+Jvz=vuKz03e_KOS_jgbS7ETkSfV-SKDA@mail.gmail.com>

Hello Jamal,

> >
> > Sorry, still trying to follow your reasoning that this is a "net issue":
> > As you point out, the skb will have enough space to carry the 32 bit
> > value. Worst case is we read garbage. And the dump, using this garbage
> > chain index,  will not find the chain or will find some unintended
> > chain. Am i missing something?

Thanks for your replying. 

I investigated the code and yes, as you said, the skb data will carry
a tailing space used for putting `struct skb_shared_info`. Hence, 32
bit is not enough here to conduct an overflow read to next object.

Hence I guess you have not missed anything but I do. For the
CVE-2023-3773, the read value is dumped to user-space so the leak is
direct. But since the chain index is not directly dumped
into userspace. The attacker can only exploit this via a side-channel
manner. Assuming the attacker could create as many chain as he can
(2**32 maybe ;P), then the dump from the garbage chain index will leak
the kernel data indirectly.

> >
> > Can you send me a repro (privately) that actually causes the "heap
> > data leak" if you have one?
> 
> To clarify what triggered me is your tie of this as an exploit and
> quoting CVEs. Maybe not so much net vs net-next.

There may be a misunderstanding here. I didn't write such a side-channel
exploit here and as you point out, this is not an easy and worthy task.
(but If you are asking the exploit for CVE-2023-3773, I will inform you
 when it is send to oss-security)

Anyway, I believe you are right. Given the fact that I ignore the
difficulty of this exploitation, such a bug rather than a vulnerability
should go to net-next instead of net. 

Shall I add any tag from you like Suggested or Reviewed?

> cheers,
> jamal
> 

Thanks
Lin

      reply	other threads:[~2023-12-28  2:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-12-24 16:54 [PATCH net v1] net/sched: cls_api: complement tcf_tfilter_dump_policy Lin Ma
2023-12-25 23:04 ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2023-12-26  1:39   ` Lin Ma
2023-12-27 17:02     ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2023-12-27 17:33       ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2023-12-28  2:09         ` Lin Ma [this message]

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