From: Milan Broz <gmazyland@gmail.com>
To: Eric Biggers <ebiggers@kernel.org>,
"Jason A. Donenfeld" <Jason@zx2c4.com>
Cc: Linux Crypto Mailing List <linux-crypto@vger.kernel.org>,
linux-fscrypt@vger.kernel.org,
linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>,
Paul Crowley <paulcrowley@google.com>,
Greg Kaiser <gkaiser@google.com>,
Michael Halcrow <mhalcrow@google.com>,
Samuel Neves <samuel.c.p.neves@gmail.com>,
Tomer Ashur <tomer.ashur@esat.kuleuven.be>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v2 00/12] crypto: Adiantum support
Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2018 12:26:20 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1f65ce09-93b3-f43e-49d5-9d9d6c0bb9e0@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20181019190411.GB246441@gmail.com>
On 19/10/2018 21:04, Eric Biggers wrote:
> Hi Jason,
>
> On Fri, Oct 19, 2018 at 05:58:35PM +0200, Jason A. Donenfeld wrote:
>> Hello Eric,
>>
>>> As before, some of these patches conflict with the new "Zinc" crypto
>>> library. But I don't know when Zinc will be merged, so for now I've
>>> continued to base this patchset on the current 'cryptodev'.
>>
>> I'd appreciate it if you waited to merge this until you can rebase it
>> on top of Zinc. In fact, if you already want to build it on top of
>> Zinc, I'm happy to work with you on that in a shared repo or similar.
>> We can also hash out the details of that in person in Vancouver in a
>> few weeks. I think pushing this in before will create undesirable
>> churn for both of us.
>>
>
> I won't be at Plumbers, sorry! For if/when it's needed, I'll start a version of
> this based on Zinc. The basic requirements are that we need (1) xchacha12 and
> xchacha20 available as 'skciphers' in the crypto API, and (2) the poly1305_core
> functions (see patch 08/12). In principle, these can be implemented in Zinc.
> The Adiantum template and all the NHPoly1305 stuff will be the same either way.
> (Unless you'll want one or both of those moved to Zinc too. To be honest, even
> after your explanations I still don't have a clear idea of what is supposed to
> go in Zinc and what isn't...)
>
> However, for now I'm hesitant to completely abandon the current approach and bet
> the farm on Zinc. Zinc has a large scope and various controversies that haven't
> yet been fully resolved to everyone's satisfaction, including unclear licenses
> on some of the essential assembly files. It's not appropriate to grind kernel
> crypto development to grind a halt while everyone waits for Zinc.
>
> So if Zinc is ready, then it makes sense for it to go first;
> otherwise, it doesn't. It's not yet clear which is the case.
Does it mean, that if Adiantum is based on Zinc, it can be no longer used
for FDE (dm-crypt)? IOW only file-based encryption is possible?
Adiantum (as in your current git branches on kernel.org) can be used for dm-crypt
without any changes (yes, I played with it :) and with some easy tricks directly
through cryptsetup/LUKS as well.
I think we should have this as an alternative to length-preserving wide-block
cipher modes for FDE.
Milan
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-10-20 10:26 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-10-15 17:54 [RFC PATCH v2 00/12] crypto: Adiantum support Eric Biggers
2018-10-15 17:54 ` [RFC PATCH v2 01/12] crypto: chacha20-generic - add HChaCha20 library function Eric Biggers
2018-10-19 14:13 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-10-15 17:54 ` [RFC PATCH v2 02/12] crypto: chacha20-generic - add XChaCha20 support Eric Biggers
2018-10-19 14:24 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-10-15 17:54 ` [RFC PATCH v2 03/12] crypto: chacha20-generic - refactor to allow varying number of rounds Eric Biggers
2018-10-19 14:25 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-10-15 17:54 ` [RFC PATCH v2 04/12] crypto: chacha - add XChaCha12 support Eric Biggers
2018-10-19 14:34 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-10-19 18:28 ` Eric Biggers
2018-10-15 17:54 ` [RFC PATCH v2 05/12] crypto: arm/chacha20 - add XChaCha20 support Eric Biggers
2018-10-20 2:29 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-10-15 17:54 ` [RFC PATCH v2 06/12] crypto: arm/chacha20 - refactor to allow varying number of rounds Eric Biggers
2018-10-20 3:35 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-10-20 5:26 ` Eric Biggers
2018-10-15 17:54 ` [RFC PATCH v2 07/12] crypto: arm/chacha - add XChaCha12 support Eric Biggers
2018-10-20 3:36 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-10-15 17:54 ` [RFC PATCH v2 08/12] crypto: poly1305 - add Poly1305 core API Eric Biggers
2018-10-20 3:45 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-10-15 17:54 ` [RFC PATCH v2 09/12] crypto: nhpoly1305 - add NHPoly1305 support Eric Biggers
2018-10-20 4:00 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-10-20 5:38 ` Eric Biggers
2018-10-20 15:06 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-10-22 18:42 ` Eric Biggers
2018-10-22 22:25 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-10-22 22:40 ` Eric Biggers
2018-10-22 22:43 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-10-15 17:54 ` [RFC PATCH v2 10/12] crypto: arm/nhpoly1305 - add NEON-accelerated NHPoly1305 Eric Biggers
2018-10-20 4:12 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-10-20 5:51 ` Eric Biggers
2018-10-20 15:00 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-10-15 17:54 ` [RFC PATCH v2 11/12] crypto: adiantum - add Adiantum support Eric Biggers
2018-10-20 4:17 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-10-20 7:12 ` Eric Biggers
2018-10-23 10:40 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-10-24 22:06 ` Eric Biggers
2018-10-30 8:17 ` Herbert Xu
2018-10-15 17:54 ` [RFC PATCH v2 12/12] fscrypt: " Eric Biggers
2018-10-19 15:58 ` [RFC PATCH v2 00/12] crypto: " Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-10-19 18:19 ` Paul Crowley
2018-10-20 3:24 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-10-20 5:22 ` Eric Biggers
[not found] ` <2395454e-a0dc-408f-4138-9d15ab5f20b8@esat.kuleuven.be>
2018-10-22 11:20 ` Tomer Ashur
2018-10-19 19:04 ` Eric Biggers
2018-10-20 10:26 ` Milan Broz [this message]
2018-10-20 13:47 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-11-16 21:52 ` Eric Biggers
2018-11-17 10:29 ` Milan Broz
2018-11-19 19:28 ` Eric Biggers
2018-11-19 20:05 ` Milan Broz
2018-11-19 20:30 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-10-21 22:23 ` Eric Biggers
2018-10-21 22:51 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-10-22 17:17 ` Paul Crowley
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