Re: TOE brain dump

From: Werner Almesberger <werner@almesberger.net>
To: Larry McVoy <lm@work.bitmover.com>,
	David Lang <david.lang@digitalinsight.com>,
	"Ihar 'Philips' Filipau" <filia@softhome.net>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: TOE brain dump
Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2003 23:30:27 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20030804233026.R5798@almesberger.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20030805015401.GA15811@work.bitmover.com>; from lm@bitmover.com on Mon, Aug 04, 2003 at 06:54:01PM -0700

Larry McVoy wrote:
> I'd suggest that all of you look at the fact that all of these offload 
> card companies have ended up dieing.  I don't know of a single one that
> made it to profitability.  Doesn't that tell you something?  What has 
> changed that makes this a good idea?

1) So far, most of the battle has been about data transfers.
   Now, per-packet overhead is becoming an issue.

2) AFAIK, they all went for designs that isolated their code
   from the main stack. That's one thing that, IMHO, has to
   change.

Is this enough to make TOE succeed ? I don't know.

- Werner

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