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From: Russell King <rmk+lkml@arm.linux.org.uk>
To: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	Evgeniy Polyakov <johnpol@2ka.mipt.ru>,
	Jean Delvare <khali@linux-fr.org>, Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: 2.6.11-rc2-mm1: SuperIO scx200 breakage
Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2005 13:12:34 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20050126131234.A30805@flint.arm.linux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20050126101434.GA7897@infradead.org>; from hch@infradead.org on Wed, Jan 26, 2005 at 10:14:34AM +0000

On Wed, Jan 26, 2005 at 10:14:34AM +0000, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> That's simply not true.  The amount of patches submitted is extremly
> huge and the reviewers don't have time to look at everythning.
> 
> If no one replies it simply means no one has looked at it in enough
> detail to comment yet.

How do people get to know this?  Grape vines and crystal balls are
inherently unreliable.

I think that if someone overlooks the patches when they're on the mailing
lists and then complains when they're merged into the kernel, they have
very little justification when trying to make it the patch submitters
problem.  It's clearly an overall failing of the community to have enough
resources to review the patches before inclusion.

Frequently I end up with the situation where *NO* *ONE* seems interested
in my patches and I throw them at Linus anyway after months have gone by.
Maybe I'm just lucky that no one bothers to read my patches or everyone
is implicitly exstatic with them.  Nevertheless, I'm forced by the lack
of response from LKML to follow precisely the same rule - no response
implies people are happy.  In reality, not doing so would mean I'd never
get any patches merged which is unacceptable.

So, if the community has a problem with enough time to review patches,
the community must get more (good) patch reviewers.  We can't go around
blaming the patch submitters for a community failing.

-- 
Russell King
 Linux kernel    2.6 ARM Linux   - http://www.arm.linux.org.uk/
 maintainer of:  2.6 PCMCIA      - http://pcmcia.arm.linux.org.uk/
                 2.6 Serial core

  parent reply	other threads:[~2005-01-26 13:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 152+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-01-18  7:21 [PATCH] Some fixes for compat ioctl Andi Kleen
2005-01-18 10:34 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2005-01-18 10:45   ` [PATCH 1/5] compat_ioctl call seems to miss a security hook Michael S. Tsirkin
2005-01-18 19:22     ` Chris Wright
2005-01-20  0:28       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2005-01-20  0:43         ` Chris Wright
2005-01-20  1:06           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2005-01-20  1:16             ` Chris Wright
2005-01-20  1:42               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2005-01-18 10:48 ` [PATCH 2/5] socket ioctl fix (from Andi) Michael S. Tsirkin
2005-01-18 10:55   ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-01-18 11:01     ` Andi Kleen
2005-01-18 10:52 ` [PATCH 3/5] make common ioctls apply for compat Michael S. Tsirkin
2005-01-18 10:57 ` [PATCH 4/5] reminder comment about register_ioctl32_conversion Michael S. Tsirkin
2005-01-18 11:04 ` [PATCH 5/5] symmetry between compat_ioctl and unlocked_ioctl Michael S. Tsirkin
2005-01-24 10:15   ` 2.6.11-rc2-mm1 Andrew Morton
2005-01-24 10:36     ` 2.6.11-rc2-mm1 Adrian Bunk
2005-01-24 11:17     ` 2.6.11-rc2-mm1: v4l-saa7134-module compile error Adrian Bunk
2005-01-24 13:57       ` Gerd Knorr
2005-01-24 17:45         ` Adrian Bunk
2005-01-25 10:15           ` Gerd Knorr
2005-01-25 10:38             ` Adrian Bunk
2005-01-24 11:56     ` 2.6.11-rc2-mm1 Brice Goglin
2005-01-24 13:41       ` 2.6.11-rc2-mm1 Brice Goglin
2005-01-24 14:35         ` 2.6.11-rc2-mm1 Florian Bohrer
2005-01-24 18:52       ` 2.6.11-rc2-mm1 Dave Jones
2005-01-24 20:44         ` 2.6.11-rc2-mm1 Dave Jones
2005-01-24 21:31           ` 2.6.11-rc2-mm1 Brice Goglin
2005-01-25 19:38             ` 2.6.11-rc2-mm1 Dave Jones
2005-01-25 19:58               ` 2.6.11-rc2-mm1 Brice Goglin
2005-01-25 20:29                 ` 2.6.11-rc2-mm1 Dave Jones
2005-01-24 12:12     ` 2.6.11-rc2-mm1 Christoph Hellwig
2005-01-24 20:36       ` 2.6.11-rc2-mm1 Karsten Keil
2005-01-24 23:26         ` 2.6.11-rc2-mm1 Christoph Hellwig
2005-01-25  0:35           ` 2.6.11-rc2-mm1 Karsten Keil
2005-01-24 23:32         ` 2.6.11-rc2-mm1 Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2005-01-24 21:03       ` 2.6.11-rc2-mm1 Andrew Morton
2005-01-24 12:17     ` 2.6.11-rc2-mm1 Christoph Hellwig
2005-01-31 22:42       ` [patch] generic notification layer Robert Love
2005-02-07 11:57       ` 2.6.11-rc2-mm1 Ingo Molnar
2005-02-07 17:30         ` 2.6.11-rc2-mm1 Robert Love
2005-02-07 21:02           ` 2.6.11-rc2-mm1 John McCutchan
2005-01-24 12:25     ` [-mm patch] fix SuperIO compilation Adrian Bunk
2005-01-24 12:34       ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-01-24 13:04         ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2005-01-24 13:56           ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2005-01-24 14:14             ` [1/1] superio: remove unneded exports and make some functions static Evgeniy Polyakov
2005-01-25  6:19               ` Greg KH
2005-01-24 12:48     ` 2.6.11-rc2-mm1: DVB compile error Adrian Bunk
2005-01-24 23:56       ` [linux-dvb-maintainer] " Johannes Stezenbach
2005-01-24 13:52     ` 2.6.11-rc2-mm1 Roman Zippel
2005-01-24 14:24     ` 2.6.11-rc2-mm1 Christoph Hellwig
2005-01-24 14:58     ` 2.6.11-rc2-mm1 Benoit Boissinot
2005-01-24 15:11     ` 2.6.11-rc2-mm1 [compile fix] Benoit Boissinot
2005-01-24 17:25       ` Adrian Bunk
2005-01-24 17:54     ` 2.6.11-rc2-mm1: SuperIO scx200 breakage Adrian Bunk
2005-01-24 18:43       ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2005-01-24 18:29         ` Adrian Bunk
2005-01-24 19:19           ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2005-01-24 19:03             ` Adrian Bunk
2005-01-24 19:46               ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2005-01-24 18:41         ` Jurriaan
2005-01-24 19:23           ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2005-01-24 19:05             ` Adrian Bunk
2005-01-24 19:39               ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2005-01-24 19:32                 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2005-01-24 20:28                   ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2005-01-27 15:19         ` Bill Davidsen
2005-01-27 16:21           ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2005-01-27 23:12             ` Bill Davidsen
2005-01-24 20:33       ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-01-24 21:10         ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2005-01-24 21:34       ` Greg KH
2005-01-24 21:47         ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-01-25  6:02           ` Greg KH
2005-01-25  7:11             ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-01-25 18:59             ` Jean Delvare
2005-01-25 21:39               ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2005-01-25 21:40                 ` Jean Delvare
2005-01-25 22:35                   ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2005-01-26  9:55                     ` Jean Delvare
2005-01-26 10:55                       ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2005-01-26 14:34                         ` Jean Delvare
2005-01-26 16:10                           ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2005-01-26 19:20                             ` Jean Delvare
2005-01-26 20:21                               ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2005-01-26 10:14                     ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-01-26 10:59                       ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2005-01-26 14:00                         ` Dmitry Torokhov
2005-01-26 16:38                           ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2005-01-26 18:19                             ` Adrian Bunk
2005-01-26 19:27                               ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2005-01-27 10:20                                 ` Adrian Bunk
2005-01-27 11:53                                   ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2005-01-26 18:06                         ` Adrian Bunk
2005-01-26 13:12                       ` Russell King [this message]
2005-01-26 20:01                         ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-01-24 18:58     ` 2.6.11-rc2-mm1 Benoit Boissinot
2005-01-24 19:09       ` 2.6.11-rc2-mm1 Adrian Bunk
2005-01-24 19:44     ` 2.6.11-rc2-mm1 - fix a typo in nfs3proc.c Benoit Boissinot
2005-01-24 20:24     ` 2.6.11-rc2-mm1 - compile fix Benoit Boissinot
2005-01-24 20:26     ` [PATCH] move common compat ioctls to hash Michael S. Tsirkin
2005-01-25  6:17       ` Andi Kleen
2005-01-26  8:40         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2005-01-25  0:03     ` 2.6.11-rc2-mm1: fuse patch needs new libs Sytse Wielinga
2005-01-25  7:31       ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-01-27 15:45       ` Bill Davidsen
2005-01-27 15:56         ` Sytse Wielinga
2005-01-27 16:11           ` Miklos Szeredi
2005-01-27 18:09       ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-01-25  1:01     ` 2.6.11-rc2-mm1 Brice Goglin
2005-01-25  1:30       ` 2.6.11-rc2-mm1 (AE_AML_NO_OPERAND) Len Brown
2005-01-25 18:41       ` 2.6.11-rc2-mm1 Pavel Machek
2005-01-25 19:10         ` 2.6.11-rc2-mm1 Espen Fjellvær Olsen
2005-01-25 12:53     ` 2.6.11-rc2-mm1 Christoph Hellwig
2005-01-25 14:11       ` 2.6.11-rc2-mm1 Evgeniy Polyakov
2005-01-25 14:23         ` 2.6.11-rc2-mm1 Christoph Hellwig
2005-01-25 15:24           ` 2.6.11-rc2-mm1 Evgeniy Polyakov
2005-01-25 15:34             ` 2.6.11-rc2-mm1 Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2005-01-25 16:04               ` 2.6.11-rc2-mm1 Evgeniy Polyakov
2005-01-25 18:21                 ` 2.6.11-rc2-mm1 Jörn Engel
2005-01-25 21:17                   ` 2.6.11-rc2-mm1 Evgeniy Polyakov
2005-01-26  2:20                     ` 2.6.11-rc2-mm1 Jörn Engel
2005-01-25 15:36             ` 2.6.11-rc2-mm1 Paulo Marques
2005-01-25 21:08               ` 2.6.11-rc2-mm1 Evgeniy Polyakov
2005-01-25 16:11             ` 2.6.11-rc2-mm1 Dmitry Torokhov
2005-01-25 21:14               ` 2.6.11-rc2-mm1 Evgeniy Polyakov
2005-01-26  4:57                 ` 2.6.11-rc2-mm1 Dmitry Torokhov
2005-01-26  8:25                   ` 2.6.11-rc2-mm1 Evgeniy Polyakov
2005-01-26 13:46                     ` 2.6.11-rc2-mm1 Dmitry Torokhov
2005-01-26 14:59                       ` 2.6.11-rc2-mm1 Evgeniy Polyakov
2005-01-26 15:26                         ` 2.6.11-rc2-mm1 Dmitry Torokhov
2005-01-26 15:54                           ` 2.6.11-rc2-mm1 Evgeniy Polyakov
2005-01-26 16:25                             ` 2.6.11-rc2-mm1 Dmitry Torokhov
2005-01-26 16:46                               ` 2.6.11-rc2-mm1 Evgeniy Polyakov
2005-01-26 16:55                                 ` 2.6.11-rc2-mm1 Dmitry Torokhov
2005-01-26 17:39                                   ` 2.6.11-rc2-mm1 Evgeniy Polyakov
2005-01-26 18:26                                     ` 2.6.11-rc2-mm1 Dmitry Torokhov
2005-01-26 20:07                                       ` 2.6.11-rc2-mm1 Evgeniy Polyakov
2005-01-26 20:22                                         ` 2.6.11-rc2-mm1 Dmitry Torokhov
2005-01-27 17:33                                           ` 2.6.11-rc2-mm1 Evgeniy Polyakov
2005-01-25 22:42             ` 2.6.11-rc2-mm1 Christoph Hellwig
2005-01-26  8:31               ` 2.6.11-rc2-mm1 Evgeniy Polyakov
2005-01-26 13:32                 ` 2.6.11-rc2-mm1 Dmitry Torokhov
2005-01-26 14:44                   ` 2.6.11-rc2-mm1 Evgeniy Polyakov
2005-01-25 19:35       ` 2.6.11-rc2-mm1 Pavel Machek
2005-01-25 19:12     ` 2.6.11-rc2-mm1 Marcos D. Marado Torres
2005-01-25 23:07       ` 2.6.11-rc2-mm1 Barry K. Nathan
2005-01-26  2:40     ` 2.6.11-rc2-mm1 William Lee Irwin III
2005-01-26  4:44     ` [PATCH] ppc64: fix use kref for device_node refcounting Nathan Lynch
2005-01-27  6:18     ` 2.6.11-rc2-mm1 William Lee Irwin III
2005-01-27  9:14       ` 2.6.11-rc2-mm1 William Lee Irwin III

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