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From: Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>
Cc: Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de>,
	Linux Memory Management <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Hugh Dickins <hugh@veritas.com>, Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
	Andrea Arcangeli <andrea@suse.de>,
	David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
Subject: Re: [patch 0/4] mm: de-skew page refcount
Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 18:38:15 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20060119173815.GA6564@wotan.suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0601190917271.3240@g5.osdl.org>

On Thu, Jan 19, 2006 at 09:27:14AM -0800, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> 
> 
> On Thu, 19 Jan 2006, Nick Piggin wrote:
> > 
> > Hmm... this is what the de-skew patch _did_ (although it was wrapped
> > in a function called get_page_unless_zero), in fact the main aim was
> > to prevent this twiddling and the de-skewing was just a nice side effect
> > (I guess the patch title is misleading).
> > 
> > So I'm confused...
> 
> The thing I minded was the _other_ changes, namely the de-skewing itself. 
> It seemed totally unnecessary to what you claimed was the point of the 
> patch.
> 
> So I objected to the patch on the grounds that it did what you claimed 
> badly. All the _optimization_ was totally independent of that de-skewing, 
> and the de-skewing was a potential un-optimization.
> 

No longer confused...

> But if you do the optimizations as one independent set of patches, and 
> _then_ do the counter thing as a "simplify logic" patch, I don't see that 
> as a problem.
> 
> Side note: I may be crazy, but for me when merging, one of the biggest 
> things is "does this pass my 'makes sense' detector". I look less at the 
> end result, than I actually look at the _change_. See?
> 
> That's why two separate patches that do the same thing as one combined 
> patch may make sense, even if the _combined_ one does not (it could go the 
> other way too, obviously).
> 

I agree, and the patches really are cleaner this way too, so again,
thanks for the input on them.

I'll resend soonish (with a trimmed cc list).

Nick

      reply	other threads:[~2006-01-19 17:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-01-18 10:40 [patch 0/4] mm: de-skew page refcount Nick Piggin
2006-01-18 10:40 ` [patch 1/4] mm: page refcount use atomic primitives Nick Piggin
2006-01-18 10:40 ` [patch 2/4] mm: PageLRU no testset Nick Piggin
2006-01-19 17:48   ` Nikita Danilov
2006-01-19 18:10     ` Nick Piggin
2006-01-18 10:40 ` [patch 3/3] mm: PageActive " Nick Piggin
2006-01-18 14:13   ` Marcelo Tosatti
2006-01-19 14:50     ` Nick Piggin
2006-01-19 16:52       ` Marcelo Tosatti
2006-01-19 20:02         ` Nick Piggin
2006-01-19 21:41           ` Marcelo Tosatti
2006-01-18 10:41 ` [patch 4/4] mm: less atomic ops Nick Piggin
2006-01-18 16:38 ` [patch 0/4] mm: de-skew page refcount Linus Torvalds
2006-01-18 17:05   ` Nick Piggin
2006-01-18 19:27     ` Linus Torvalds
2006-01-19 14:00       ` Nick Piggin
2006-01-19 16:36         ` Linus Torvalds
2006-01-19 17:06           ` Nick Piggin
2006-01-19 17:27             ` Linus Torvalds
2006-01-19 17:38               ` Nick Piggin [this message]

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