From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1752443AbYGUR3I (ORCPT ); Mon, 21 Jul 2008 13:29:08 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1751127AbYGUR2x (ORCPT ); Mon, 21 Jul 2008 13:28:53 -0400 Received: from 74-93-104-97-Washington.hfc.comcastbusiness.net ([74.93.104.97]:58818 "EHLO sunset.davemloft.net" rhost-flags-OK-FAIL-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751016AbYGUR2w (ORCPT ); Mon, 21 Jul 2008 13:28:52 -0400 Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 10:28:52 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <20080721.102852.124418551.davem@davemloft.net> To: kaber@trash.net Cc: jmorris@namei.org, torvalds@linux-foundation.org, akpm@linux-foundation.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [GIT]: Networking From: David Miller In-Reply-To: <48847BA5.2020600@trash.net> References: <4883E465.4050405@trash.net> <48847BA5.2020600@trash.net> X-Mailer: Mew version 5.2 on Emacs 22.1 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org From: Patrick McHardy Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 14:05:57 +0200 > The idea was that NETFILTER_ADVANCED=n enables everything needed > by mainstream distributions and hides the rest. We can certainly > change the default for this option, but that makes NETFILTER_ADVANCED > pretty much useless. A new feature cannot possibly be used by existing distributions. I think that's the main gripe. Distributions themselves will enable the feature no matter what we mark it's default as. And once the feature thus becomes pervasive we can re-adjust the default.