From: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>
To: Jamie Lokier <jamie@shareable.org>
Cc: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>, Indan Zupancic <indan@nul.nu>,
Andrew Lutomirski <luto@mit.edu>, Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>,
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Roland McGrath <mcgrathr@chromium.org>
Subject: Re: Compat 32-bit syscall entry from 64-bit task!? [was: Re: [RFC,PATCH 1/2] seccomp_filters: system call filtering using BPF]
Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2012 03:22:17 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120118022217.GS11715@one.firstfloor.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120118020453.GL7180@jl-vm1.vm.bytemark.co.uk>
> I'm pretty sure this isn't about changing cs or far jumps
He's assuming that code can only run on two code segments and
not arbitarily switch between them which is a completely incorrect
assumption.
> I think Indan means code is running with 64-bit cs, but the kernel
> treats int $0x80 as a 32-bit syscall and sysenter as a 64-bit syscall,
> and there's no way for the ptracer to know which syscall the kernel
> will perform, even by looking at all registers. It looks like a hole
> in ptrace which could be fixed.
Possibly, but anything that bases its security on ptrace is typically
unfixable racy (just think what happens with multiple threads
and syscall arguments), so it's unlikely to do any good.
-Andi
--
ak@linux.intel.com -- Speaking for myself only.
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2012-01-11 17:25 [RFC,PATCH 0/2] dynamic seccomp policies (using BPF filters) Will Drewry
2012-01-11 17:25 ` [RFC,PATCH 1/2] seccomp_filters: system call filtering using BPF Will Drewry
2012-01-12 8:53 ` Serge Hallyn
2012-01-12 16:54 ` Will Drewry
2012-01-12 14:50 ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-01-12 16:55 ` Will Drewry
2012-01-12 15:43 ` Steven Rostedt
2012-01-12 16:14 ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-01-12 16:38 ` Steven Rostedt
2012-01-12 16:47 ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-01-12 17:08 ` Will Drewry
2012-01-12 17:30 ` Jamie Lokier
2012-01-12 17:40 ` Steven Rostedt
2012-01-12 17:44 ` Jamie Lokier
2012-01-12 17:56 ` Steven Rostedt
2012-01-12 23:27 ` Alan Cox
2012-01-12 23:38 ` Linus Torvalds
2012-01-12 22:18 ` Will Drewry
2012-01-12 23:00 ` Andrew Lutomirski
2012-01-12 16:14 ` Andrew Lutomirski
2012-01-12 16:27 ` Steven Rostedt
2012-01-12 16:51 ` Andrew Lutomirski
2012-01-12 17:09 ` Linus Torvalds
2012-01-12 17:17 ` Steven Rostedt
2012-01-12 18:18 ` Andrew Lutomirski
2012-01-12 18:32 ` Linus Torvalds
2012-01-12 18:44 ` Andrew Lutomirski
2012-01-12 19:08 ` Kyle Moffett
2012-01-12 23:05 ` Eric Paris
2012-01-12 23:33 ` Andrew Lutomirski
2012-01-12 19:40 ` Will Drewry
2012-01-12 19:42 ` Will Drewry
2012-01-12 19:46 ` Andrew Lutomirski
2012-01-12 20:00 ` Linus Torvalds
2012-01-12 16:59 ` Will Drewry
2012-01-12 17:22 ` Jamie Lokier
2012-01-12 17:35 ` Will Drewry
2012-01-12 17:57 ` Jamie Lokier
2012-01-12 18:03 ` Will Drewry
2012-01-13 1:34 ` Jamie Lokier
2012-01-13 2:44 ` Indan Zupancic
2012-01-13 6:33 ` Chris Evans
2012-01-12 17:36 ` Jamie Lokier
2012-01-12 16:18 ` Alan Cox
2012-01-12 17:03 ` Will Drewry
2012-01-12 17:11 ` Alan Cox
2012-01-12 17:52 ` Will Drewry
2012-01-13 1:31 ` James Morris
2012-01-12 16:22 ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-01-12 17:10 ` Will Drewry
2012-01-12 17:23 ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-01-12 17:51 ` Will Drewry
2012-01-13 17:31 ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-01-13 19:01 ` Will Drewry
2012-01-13 23:10 ` Will Drewry
2012-01-13 23:12 ` Will Drewry
2012-01-13 23:30 ` Eric Paris
2012-01-15 3:40 ` Indan Zupancic
2012-01-16 1:40 ` Will Drewry
2012-01-16 6:49 ` Indan Zupancic
2012-01-16 20:12 ` Will Drewry
2012-01-17 6:46 ` Indan Zupancic
2012-01-17 17:37 ` Will Drewry
2012-01-18 4:06 ` Indan Zupancic
2012-01-18 4:38 ` Will Drewry
2012-01-17 20:34 ` Kees Cook
2012-01-17 20:42 ` Will Drewry
2012-01-17 21:09 ` Will Drewry
2012-01-18 4:47 ` Indan Zupancic
2012-01-16 18:37 ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-01-16 20:15 ` Will Drewry
2012-01-17 16:45 ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-01-17 16:56 ` Will Drewry
2012-01-17 17:01 ` Andrew Lutomirski
2012-01-17 17:05 ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-01-17 17:45 ` Andrew Lutomirski
2012-01-18 0:56 ` Compat 32-bit syscall entry from 64-bit task!? [was: Re: [RFC,PATCH 1/2] seccomp_filters: system call filtering using BPF] Indan Zupancic
2012-01-18 1:01 ` Andrew Lutomirski
2012-01-19 1:06 ` Indan Zupancic
2012-01-19 1:19 ` Andrew Lutomirski
2012-01-19 1:47 ` Indan Zupancic
2012-01-18 1:07 ` Roland McGrath
2012-01-18 1:47 ` Indan Zupancic
2012-01-18 1:48 ` Jamie Lokier
2012-01-18 1:50 ` Andi Kleen
2012-01-18 2:00 ` Steven Rostedt
2012-01-18 2:04 ` Jamie Lokier
2012-01-18 2:22 ` Andi Kleen [this message]
2012-01-18 2:25 ` Andrew Lutomirski
2012-01-18 4:22 ` Indan Zupancic
2012-01-18 5:23 ` Linus Torvalds
2012-01-18 6:25 ` Linus Torvalds
2012-01-18 13:12 ` Compat 32-bit syscall entry from 64-bit task!? Indan Zupancic
2012-01-18 19:31 ` Linus Torvalds
2012-01-18 19:36 ` Andi Kleen
2012-01-18 19:39 ` Linus Torvalds
2012-01-18 19:44 ` Andi Kleen
2012-01-18 19:47 ` Linus Torvalds
2012-01-18 19:52 ` Will Drewry
2012-01-18 19:58 ` Will Drewry
2012-01-18 19:41 ` Martin Mares
2012-01-18 19:38 ` Andrew Lutomirski
2012-01-19 16:01 ` Jamie Lokier
2012-01-19 16:13 ` Andrew Lutomirski
2012-01-19 19:21 ` Linus Torvalds
2012-01-19 19:30 ` Andrew Lutomirski
2012-01-19 19:37 ` Linus Torvalds
2012-01-19 19:41 ` Linus Torvalds
2012-01-19 23:54 ` Jamie Lokier
2012-01-20 0:05 ` Linus Torvalds
2012-01-20 15:35 ` Will Drewry
2012-01-20 17:56 ` Roland McGrath
2012-01-20 19:45 ` Will Drewry
2012-01-18 20:26 ` Linus Torvalds
2012-01-18 20:55 ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-01-18 21:01 ` Linus Torvalds
2012-01-18 21:04 ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-01-18 21:21 ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-01-18 21:51 ` Roland McGrath
2012-01-18 21:53 ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-01-18 23:28 ` Linus Torvalds
2012-01-19 0:38 ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-01-20 21:51 ` Denys Vlasenko
2012-01-20 22:40 ` Roland McGrath
2012-01-20 22:41 ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-01-20 23:49 ` Indan Zupancic
2012-01-20 23:55 ` Roland McGrath
2012-01-20 23:58 ` hpanvin@gmail.com
2012-01-23 2:14 ` Indan Zupancic
2012-01-21 0:07 ` Denys Vlasenko
2012-01-21 0:10 ` Roland McGrath
2012-01-21 1:23 ` Jamie Lokier
2012-01-23 2:37 ` Indan Zupancic
2012-01-23 16:48 ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-01-24 8:19 ` Indan Zupancic
2012-02-06 20:30 ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-02-06 20:39 ` Roland McGrath
2012-02-06 20:42 ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-01-18 21:26 ` Linus Torvalds
2012-01-18 21:30 ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-01-18 21:42 ` Linus Torvalds
2012-01-18 21:47 ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-01-19 1:45 ` Indan Zupancic
2012-01-19 2:16 ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-02-06 8:32 ` Indan Zupancic
2012-02-06 17:02 ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-02-07 1:52 ` Indan Zupancic
2012-02-09 0:19 ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-02-09 4:20 ` Indan Zupancic
2012-02-09 4:29 ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-02-09 6:03 ` Indan Zupancic
2012-02-09 14:47 ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-02-09 16:00 ` H.J. Lu
2012-02-10 1:09 ` Indan Zupancic
2012-02-10 1:15 ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-02-10 2:29 ` Indan Zupancic
2012-02-10 2:47 ` H. Peter Anvin
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2012-02-10 15:53 ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-02-10 22:42 ` Indan Zupancic
2012-02-10 22:56 ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-02-12 12:07 ` Indan Zupancic
2012-01-25 19:36 ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-01-25 20:20 ` Pedro Alves
2012-01-25 23:36 ` Denys Vlasenko
2012-01-25 23:32 ` Denys Vlasenko
2012-01-26 0:40 ` Indan Zupancic
2012-01-26 1:08 ` Jamie Lokier
2012-01-26 1:22 ` Denys Vlasenko
2012-01-26 6:34 ` Indan Zupancic
2012-01-26 10:31 ` Jamie Lokier
2012-01-26 10:40 ` Denys Vlasenko
2012-01-26 11:01 ` Jamie Lokier
2012-01-26 14:02 ` Denys Vlasenko
2012-01-26 11:19 ` Indan Zupancic
2012-01-26 11:20 ` Indan Zupancic
2012-01-26 11:47 ` Jamie Lokier
2012-01-26 14:05 ` Denys Vlasenko
2012-01-27 7:23 ` Indan Zupancic
2012-02-10 2:02 ` Jamie Lokier
2012-02-10 3:37 ` Indan Zupancic
2012-02-10 21:19 ` Denys Vlasenko
2012-01-26 1:09 ` Denys Vlasenko
2012-01-26 3:47 ` Linus Torvalds
2012-01-26 18:03 ` Denys Vlasenko
2017-03-08 23:41 ` Dmitry V. Levin
2017-03-09 4:39 ` Andrew Lutomirski
2017-03-14 2:57 ` Dmitry V. Levin
2012-01-26 5:57 ` Indan Zupancic
2012-01-26 0:59 ` Jamie Lokier
2012-01-26 1:21 ` Denys Vlasenko
2012-01-26 8:23 ` Pedro Alves
2012-01-26 8:53 ` Denys Vlasenko
2012-01-26 9:51 ` Pedro Alves
2012-01-26 18:44 ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-02-10 2:51 ` Jamie Lokier
2012-01-18 15:04 ` Compat 32-bit syscall entry from 64-bit task!? [was: Re: [RFC,PATCH 1/2] seccomp_filters: system call filtering using BPF] Eric Paris
2012-01-18 17:51 ` Linus Torvalds
2012-01-18 5:43 ` Chris Evans
2012-01-18 12:12 ` Indan Zupancic
2012-01-18 21:13 ` Chris Evans
2012-01-19 0:14 ` Indan Zupancic
2012-01-19 8:16 ` Chris Evans
2012-01-19 11:34 ` Indan Zupancic
2012-01-19 16:11 ` Jamie Lokier
2012-01-19 15:40 ` Jamie Lokier
2012-01-18 17:00 ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-01-18 17:12 ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-01-18 21:09 ` Chris Evans
2012-01-23 16:56 ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-01-23 22:23 ` Chris Evans
2012-02-07 11:45 ` Indan Zupancic
2012-01-19 0:29 ` Indan Zupancic
2012-01-18 2:27 ` Linus Torvalds
2012-01-18 2:31 ` Andi Kleen
2012-01-18 2:46 ` Linus Torvalds
2012-01-18 14:06 ` Martin Mares
2012-01-18 18:24 ` Andi Kleen
2012-01-19 16:04 ` Jamie Lokier
2012-01-20 0:21 ` Indan Zupancic
2012-01-20 0:53 ` Linus Torvalds
2012-01-20 2:02 ` Indan Zupancic
2012-01-17 17:06 ` [RFC,PATCH 1/2] seccomp_filters: system call filtering using BPF Will Drewry
2012-01-17 19:35 ` Will Drewry
2012-01-12 17:02 ` Andrew Lutomirski
2012-01-16 20:28 ` Will Drewry
2012-01-11 17:25 ` [RFC,PATCH 2/2] Documentation: prctl/seccomp_filter Will Drewry
2012-01-11 20:03 ` Jonathan Corbet
2012-01-11 20:10 ` Will Drewry
2012-01-11 23:19 ` [PATCH v2 " Will Drewry
2012-01-12 0:29 ` Will Drewry
2012-01-12 18:16 ` Randy Dunlap
2012-01-12 17:23 ` Will Drewry
2012-01-12 17:34 ` Steven Rostedt
2012-01-12 13:13 ` [RFC,PATCH " Łukasz Sowa
2012-01-12 17:25 ` Will Drewry
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