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From: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
To: Alexey Dobriyan <adobriyan@gmail.com>
Cc: Andrew Jones <drjones@redhat.com>,
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	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, gregkh@suse.de,
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	yasutake koichi <yasutake.koichi@jp.panasonic.com>,
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	linville@tuxdriver.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] kconfig: untangle EXPERT and EMBEDDED
Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2012 13:36:18 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120118133618.48948662.akpm@linux-foundation.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120118210441.GA4728@p183.telecom.by>

On Thu, 19 Jan 2012 00:04:41 +0300
Alexey Dobriyan <adobriyan@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 12:28:30PM -0800, Andrew Morton wrote:
> > And ditto EXPERT.  Is there really any benefit in hiding config options
> > from developers so they won't burn their fingers?  Or is there some
> > other reason for EXPERT?
> 
> Absolutely.
> 
> If say CONFIG_TMPFS is disabled, Debian simply won't boot past
> init scripts. Or CONFIG_UNIX (I'm almost sure, reasonably
> modern distro is unusable anyway).
> 

If you screw up your kernel config, the resulting kernel won't work
right.  There are countless ways of doing this.  You go back to the
previous .config and try again.


Is there some benefit to handholding people in a few special cases? 
Well yes, I suppose so.  But does that benefit justify all the gunk
we've added to Kconfig to implement it?   I don't think so.


  reply	other threads:[~2012-01-18 21:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-01-11 15:16 [PATCH] kconfig: untangle EXPERT and EMBEDDED Andrew Jones
2012-01-11 21:57 ` David Rientjes
2012-01-12  9:18   ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-01-12 10:18     ` Andrew Jones
2012-01-12 21:06       ` David Rientjes
2012-01-13  8:51         ` Andrew Jones
2012-01-13 10:53           ` David Rientjes
2012-01-13 12:22             ` Andrew Jones
2012-01-13 21:27               ` David Rientjes
2012-01-16  9:20                 ` Andrew Jones
2012-01-16 23:28                   ` David Rientjes
2012-01-17 14:27                     ` Andrew Jones
2012-01-17 20:46                       ` David Rientjes
2012-01-18  8:14                         ` Andrew Jones
2012-01-18  9:19                           ` David Rientjes
2012-01-16 15:31                 ` Jerome Marchand
2012-01-16 23:37                   ` David Rientjes
2012-01-17 14:46                     ` Andrew Jones
2012-01-17 20:54                       ` David Rientjes
2012-01-18  8:51                         ` Jerome Marchand
2012-01-18  8:56                         ` Andrew Jones
2012-01-18  9:31                           ` David Rientjes
2012-01-18  9:54                             ` Andrew Jones
2012-01-18  9:38                         ` Andrew Jones
2012-01-12 20:59     ` David Rientjes
2012-01-16 15:40 ` Jerome Marchand
2012-01-16 15:50   ` Andrew Jones
2012-01-16 17:34     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2012-01-17  8:28       ` Andrew Jones
2012-01-18 11:08 ` Andrew Jones
2012-01-18 20:28   ` Andrew Morton
2012-01-18 20:46     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2012-01-18 21:04     ` Alexey Dobriyan
2012-01-18 21:36       ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2012-01-18 21:48     ` Paul Bolle
2012-01-18 21:55       ` Andrew Morton
2012-01-18 22:13         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2012-01-18 22:06       ` Alexey Dobriyan
2012-01-18 22:13       ` Dave Jones
2012-01-19  8:09     ` Andrew Jones
2012-01-23 13:46     ` Andrew Jones
2012-01-24  0:43       ` David Rientjes

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