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From: Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>
To: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
Cc: Jiri Olsa <jolsa@redhat.com>,
	mingo@redhat.com, paulus@samba.org, acme@ghostprotocols.net,
	a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	aarapov@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/7] ftrace: Add enable/disable ftrace_ops control interface
Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2012 03:37:29 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120126023726.GI20878@somewhere> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1327533221.22710.74.camel@gandalf.stny.rr.com>

On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 06:13:41PM -0500, Steven Rostedt wrote:
> On Fri, 2012-01-20 at 18:02 +0100, Frederic Weisbecker wrote:
> >  
> > > +/**
> > > + * ftrace_function_enable - enable controlled ftrace_ops on given cpu
> > > + *
> > > + * This function enables tracing on given cpu by decreasing
> > > + * the per cpu control variable.
> > > + * It must be called with preemption disabled and only on
> > > + * ftrace_ops registered with FTRACE_OPS_FL_CONTROL.
> > > + */
> > > +static inline void ftrace_function_enable(struct ftrace_ops *ops, int cpu)
> > > +{
> > > +	atomic_t *disabled;
> > > +
> > > +	if (WARN_ON_ONCE(!(ops->flags & FTRACE_OPS_FL_CONTROL) ||
> > > +			 !preempt_count()))
> > > +		return;
> > > +
> > > +	disabled = per_cpu_ptr(ops->disabled, cpu);
> > > +	atomic_dec(disabled);
> > > +}
> > 
> > As you're using this for the local CPU exclusively, I suggest you rather
> > rename it to "ftrace_function_{dis,en}able_cpu(struct ftrace_ops *ops)"
> 
> I wonder if "ftrace_function_local_{dis,en}able(ops)" would be better?
> That would match something like local_irq_disable/enable.

Good idea.

> 
> > and use __get_cpu_var() that does the preempt check for you.
> 
> Hmm, I haven't tried that with allocated per_cpu pointers before. If it
> works, sure.

Yeah that works. In fact this_cpu_ptr() would do the best. Both this_cpu_ptr()
and __get_cpu_var() map to the same internal ops with preemption checks.

> > >  static void
> > > +ftrace_ops_control_func(unsigned long ip, unsigned long parent_ip)
> > > +{
> > > +	struct ftrace_ops *op;
> > > +	int cpu;
> > > +
> > > +	if (unlikely(trace_recursion_test(TRACE_CONTROL_BIT)))
> > > +		return;
> > > +
> > > +	/*
> > > +	 * Some of the ops may be dynamically allocated,
> > > +	 * they must be freed after a synchronize_sched().
> > > +	 */
> > > +	preempt_disable_notrace();
> > > +	trace_recursion_set(TRACE_CONTROL_BIT);
> > > +	cpu = smp_processor_id();
> > > +	op = rcu_dereference_raw(ftrace_control_list);
> > > +	while (op != &ftrace_list_end) {
> > > +		if (!control_ops_is_disabled(op, cpu) &&
> > > +		    ftrace_ops_test(op, ip))
> > > +			op->func(ip, parent_ip);
> > > +
> > > +		op = rcu_dereference_raw(op->next);
> > 
> > Should it be rcu_dereference_sched() ?
> 
> From the comment posted by Paul McKenney who converted the global_list
> ops (that does somewhat the same thing as the control ops here):
> 
> /*
>  * Traverse the ftrace_global_list, invoking all entries.  The reason that we
>  * can use rcu_dereference_raw() is that elements removed from this list
>  * are simply leaked, so there is no need to interact with a grace-period
>  * mechanism.  The rcu_dereference_raw() calls are needed to handle
>  * concurrent insertions into the ftrace_global_list.
>  *
>  * Silly Alpha and silly pointer-speculation compiler optimizations!
>  */

Ok.

> 
> 
> But then reading the commit he has:
> 
>     Replace the calls to read_barrier_depends() in
>     ftrace_list_func() with rcu_dereference_raw() to improve
>     readability.  The reason that we use rcu_dereference_raw() here
>     is that removed entries are never freed, instead they are simply
>     leaked.  This is one of a very few cases where use of
>     rcu_dereference_raw() is the long-term right answer.  And I
>     don't yet know of any others.  ;-)
> 
> Hmm, and I use the rcu_derefrence_raw() in other places in this file,
> but those places now get freed. Although, I'm a bit nervous in changing
> these to rcu_dereference_sched, because if CONFIG_DEBUG_LOCK_ALLOC is
> enabled, then the checks will be done for *every function* called.
> 
> We obviously have preemption disabled, or other bad things may happen.
> Wonder if we really need this?  Ftrace itself is a internal checker and
> not truly a kernel component. It may be "exempt" from theses checks ;-)
> 
> I could make the switch and see what overhead this causes. It may live
> lock the system. It wouldn't be the first time lockdep & ftrace live
> locked the system. Or made it so unbearably slow.

Yeah right. We can probably make this exception for function tracing by
keeping rcu_dereference_raw(). But now that it involves a grace period,
the comment probably should be updated :)

> Lockdep and ftrace do
> not play well together. They both are very intrusive. The two remind me
> of the United States congress. Where there is two parties trying to take
> control of everything, but nothing ever gets done. We end up with a
> grid/live lock in the country/computer.

:o)

> > 
> > > +	};
> > > +	trace_recursion_clear(TRACE_CONTROL_BIT);
> > > +	preempt_enable_notrace();
> > > +}
> > > +
> > > +static struct ftrace_ops control_ops = {
> > > +	.func = ftrace_ops_control_func,
> > > +};
> > 
> > So note this patch is optimizing for the off case (when
> > we have called pmu->del()), but at the cost of having an
> > impact in the on case with having at least one level
> > of multiplexing (and two on the worst case if we have ftrace
> > running in parallel but this is enough a corner case that we
> > don't care).
> > 
> > But this is perhaps still a win.
> 
> There's a lot more overhead elsewhere that this shouldn't be an issue.

Yeah that looks fine.

  reply	other threads:[~2012-01-26  2:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 185+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-11-27 18:04 [RFC] ftrace, perf: Adding support to use function trace Jiri Olsa
2011-11-27 18:04 ` [PATCH 1/9] trace: Fix uninitialized variable compiler warning Jiri Olsa
2011-11-28 16:19   ` Steven Rostedt
2011-11-28 16:25     ` Jiri Olsa
2011-11-28 19:34       ` Steven Rostedt
2011-11-27 18:04 ` [PATCH 2/9] ftrace: Fix possible NULL dereferencing in __ftrace_hash_rec_update Jiri Olsa
2011-11-28 16:24   ` Steven Rostedt
2011-11-27 18:04 ` [PATCH 3/9] ftrace: Fix shutdown to disable calls properly Jiri Olsa
2011-11-28 19:18   ` Steven Rostedt
2011-11-29 11:21     ` Jiri Olsa
2011-11-27 18:04 ` [PATCH 4/9] ftrace: Add enable/disable ftrace_ops control interface Jiri Olsa
2011-11-28 19:26   ` Steven Rostedt
2011-11-28 20:02     ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-11-28 20:05       ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-11-28 20:14         ` Steven Rostedt
2011-11-28 20:20           ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-11-28 20:12       ` Steven Rostedt
2011-11-28 20:15         ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-11-28 20:24           ` Steven Rostedt
2011-11-28 20:21   ` Steven Rostedt
2011-11-29 10:07     ` Jiri Olsa
2011-11-27 18:04 ` [PATCH 5/9] ftrace, perf: Add open/close tracepoint perf registration actions Jiri Olsa
2011-11-27 18:04 ` [PATCH 6/9] ftrace, perf: Add add/del " Jiri Olsa
2011-11-27 18:04 ` [PATCH 7/9] ftrace, perf: Add support to use function tracepoint in perf Jiri Olsa
2011-11-28 19:58   ` Steven Rostedt
2011-11-28 20:03     ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-11-28 20:13       ` Steven Rostedt
2011-11-29 10:10         ` Jiri Olsa
2011-11-28 20:08     ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-11-28 20:10       ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-11-28 20:16         ` Steven Rostedt
2011-11-28 20:18           ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-11-27 18:04 ` [PATCH 8/9] ftrace, perf: Add FILTER_TRACE_FN event field type Jiri Olsa
2011-11-28 20:01   ` Steven Rostedt
2011-11-29 10:14     ` Jiri Olsa
2011-11-29 11:22     ` Jiri Olsa
2011-11-29 11:51       ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-11-29 12:21         ` Jiri Olsa
2011-11-27 18:04 ` [PATCH 9/9] ftrace, perf: Add filter support for function trace event Jiri Olsa
2011-11-28 20:07   ` Steven Rostedt
2011-12-05 17:22 ` [RFCv2] ftrace, perf: Adding support to use function trace Jiri Olsa
2011-12-05 17:22   ` [PATCHv2 01/10] ftrace: Fix possible NULL dereferencing in __ftrace_hash_rec_update Jiri Olsa
2011-12-05 17:22   ` [PATCHv2 02/10] ftrace: Change mcount call replacement logic Jiri Olsa
2011-12-19 19:03     ` Steven Rostedt
2011-12-20 13:10       ` Jiri Olsa
2011-12-20 16:33         ` Steven Rostedt
2011-12-20 19:39     ` Steven Rostedt
2011-12-21  9:57       ` Jiri Olsa
2011-12-21 11:34         ` Steven Rostedt
2011-12-21 11:35           ` Steven Rostedt
2011-12-21 11:40             ` Jiri Olsa
2012-01-08  9:13     ` [tip:perf/core] ftrace: Fix unregister ftrace_ops accounting tip-bot for Jiri Olsa
2011-12-05 17:22   ` [PATCHv2 03/10] ftrace: Add enable/disable ftrace_ops control interface Jiri Olsa
2011-12-19 19:19     ` Steven Rostedt
2011-12-19 19:35     ` Steven Rostedt
2011-12-20 14:57       ` Jiri Olsa
2011-12-20 15:25         ` Steven Rostedt
2011-12-20 15:35           ` Jiri Olsa
2011-12-05 17:22   ` [PATCHv2 04/10] ftrace, perf: Add open/close tracepoint perf registration actions Jiri Olsa
2011-12-05 17:22   ` [PATCHv2 05/10] ftrace, perf: Add add/del " Jiri Olsa
2011-12-05 17:22   ` [PATCHv2 06/10] ftrace, perf: Add support to use function tracepoint in perf Jiri Olsa
2011-12-05 17:22   ` [PATCHv2 07/10] ftrace: Change filter/notrace set functions to return exit code Jiri Olsa
2011-12-19 19:22     ` Steven Rostedt
2011-12-05 17:22   ` [PATCHv2 08/10] ftrace, perf: Distinguish ftrace function event field type Jiri Olsa
2011-12-05 17:22   ` [PATCHv2 09/10] ftrace, perf: Add filter support for function trace event Jiri Olsa
2011-12-05 17:22   ` [PATCHv2 10/10] ftrace, graph: Add global_ops filter callback for graph tracing Jiri Olsa
2011-12-19 19:27     ` Steven Rostedt
2011-12-19 13:40   ` [RFCv2] ftrace, perf: Adding support to use function trace Jiri Olsa
2011-12-19 16:45     ` Steven Rostedt
2011-12-19 16:58     ` Frederic Weisbecker
2011-12-21 11:48   ` [PATCHv3 0/8] " Jiri Olsa
2011-12-21 11:48     ` [PATCH 1/8] ftrace: Change filter/notrace set functions to return exit code Jiri Olsa
2011-12-21 11:48     ` [PATCH 2/8] ftrace: Fix possible NULL dereferencing in __ftrace_hash_rec_update Jiri Olsa
2011-12-21 15:23       ` Steven Rostedt
2011-12-21 11:48     ` [PATCH 3/8] ftrace: Add enable/disable ftrace_ops control interface Jiri Olsa
2011-12-21 16:01       ` Steven Rostedt
2011-12-21 16:43         ` Jiri Olsa
2011-12-21 16:55           ` Steven Rostedt
2012-01-24  1:26         ` Frederic Weisbecker
2011-12-21 11:48     ` [PATCH 4/8] ftrace, perf: Add open/close tracepoint perf registration actions Jiri Olsa
2011-12-21 11:48     ` [PATCH 5/8] ftrace, perf: Add add/del " Jiri Olsa
2011-12-21 11:48     ` [PATCH 6/8] ftrace, perf: Add support to use function tracepoint in perf Jiri Olsa
2011-12-21 11:48     ` [PATCH 7/8] ftrace, perf: Distinguish ftrace function event field type Jiri Olsa
2011-12-21 11:48     ` [PATCH 8/8] ftrace, perf: Add filter support for function trace event Jiri Olsa
2011-12-21 18:56     ` [PATCHv4 0/8] ftrace, perf: Adding support to use function trace Jiri Olsa
2011-12-21 18:56       ` [PATCH 1/7] ftrace: Change filter/notrace set functions to return exit code Jiri Olsa
2011-12-22  0:12         ` Steven Rostedt
2011-12-22  8:01           ` [PATCHv5 " Jiri Olsa
2011-12-21 18:56       ` [PATCH 2/7] ftrace: Add enable/disable ftrace_ops control interface Jiri Olsa
2011-12-21 18:56       ` [PATCH 3/7] ftrace, perf: Add open/close tracepoint perf registration actions Jiri Olsa
2011-12-21 18:56       ` [PATCH 4/7] ftrace, perf: Add add/del " Jiri Olsa
2011-12-21 18:56       ` [PATCH 5/7] ftrace, perf: Add support to use function tracepoint in perf Jiri Olsa
2011-12-21 18:56       ` [PATCH 6/7] ftrace, perf: Distinguish ftrace function event field type Jiri Olsa
2011-12-21 18:56       ` [PATCH 7/7] ftrace, perf: Add filter support for function trace event Jiri Olsa
2011-12-21 22:07         ` Frederic Weisbecker
2011-12-22 12:55           ` Jiri Olsa
2011-12-22 15:26             ` [PATCHvFIXED " Jiri Olsa
2011-12-24  2:35               ` Frederic Weisbecker
2011-12-21 19:02       ` [PATCHv4 0/7] ftrace, perf: Adding support to use function trace Jiri Olsa
2012-01-02  9:04       ` [PATCHv5 " Jiri Olsa
2012-01-02  9:04         ` [PATCH 1/7] ftrace: Change filter/notrace set functions to return exit code Jiri Olsa
2012-02-17 13:46           ` [tip:perf/core] ftrace: Change filter/ notrace " tip-bot for Jiri Olsa
2012-01-02  9:04         ` [PATCH 2/7] ftrace: Add enable/disable ftrace_ops control interface Jiri Olsa
2012-01-17  1:42           ` Frederic Weisbecker
2012-01-17  2:07             ` Steven Rostedt
2012-01-17  2:29               ` Frederic Weisbecker
2012-01-18 13:59             ` Jiri Olsa
2012-01-02  9:04         ` [PATCH 3/7] ftrace, perf: Add open/close tracepoint perf registration actions Jiri Olsa
2012-01-02  9:04         ` [PATCH 4/7] ftrace, perf: Add add/del " Jiri Olsa
2012-01-02  9:04         ` [PATCH 5/7] ftrace, perf: Add support to use function tracepoint in perf Jiri Olsa
2012-01-02  9:04         ` [PATCH 6/7] ftrace, perf: Distinguish ftrace function event field type Jiri Olsa
2012-01-02  9:04         ` [PATCH 7/7] ftrace, perf: Add filter support for function trace event Jiri Olsa
2012-01-16 23:59           ` Steven Rostedt
2012-01-18 13:45             ` Jiri Olsa
2012-01-16  8:57         ` [PATCHv5 0/7] ftrace, perf: Adding support to use function trace Jiri Olsa
2012-01-16 16:17           ` Steven Rostedt
2012-01-18 18:44         ` [PATCHv6 " Jiri Olsa
2012-01-18 18:44           ` [PATCH 1/7] ftrace: Change filter/notrace set functions to return exit code Jiri Olsa
2012-01-19 16:31             ` Frederic Weisbecker
2012-01-18 18:44           ` [PATCH 2/7] ftrace: Add enable/disable ftrace_ops control interface Jiri Olsa
2012-01-20 17:02             ` Frederic Weisbecker
2012-01-25 23:13               ` Steven Rostedt
2012-01-26  2:37                 ` Frederic Weisbecker [this message]
2012-01-27 10:37                   ` Jiri Olsa
2012-01-27 10:38                     ` Jiri Olsa
2012-01-27 16:40                     ` Frederic Weisbecker
2012-01-27 16:54                       ` Jiri Olsa
2012-01-27 17:02                         ` Frederic Weisbecker
2012-01-27 17:20                           ` Jiri Olsa
2012-01-28 16:39                             ` Frederic Weisbecker
2012-01-27 17:21                         ` Steven Rostedt
2012-01-18 18:44           ` [PATCH 3/7] ftrace, perf: Add open/close tracepoint perf registration actions Jiri Olsa
2012-01-18 18:44           ` [PATCH 4/7] ftrace, perf: Add add/del " Jiri Olsa
2012-01-18 18:44           ` [PATCH 5/7] ftrace, perf: Add support to use function tracepoint in perf Jiri Olsa
2012-01-18 18:44           ` [PATCH 6/7] ftrace, perf: Distinguish ftrace function event field type Jiri Olsa
2012-01-18 18:44           ` [PATCH 7/7] ftrace, perf: Add filter support for function trace event Jiri Olsa
2012-01-18 21:43           ` [PATCHv6 0/7] ftrace, perf: Adding support to use function trace Steven Rostedt
2012-01-28 18:43           ` [PATCHv7 " Jiri Olsa
2012-01-28 18:43             ` [PATCH 1/7] ftrace: Change filter/notrace set functions to return exit code Jiri Olsa
2012-01-30  5:42               ` Frederic Weisbecker
2012-01-28 18:43             ` [PATCH 2/7] ftrace: Add enable/disable ftrace_ops control interface Jiri Olsa
2012-01-30  5:59               ` Frederic Weisbecker
2012-01-30  9:18                 ` Jiri Olsa
2012-02-03 13:42                   ` Steven Rostedt
2012-02-03 13:50                     ` Jiri Olsa
2012-02-03 14:08                       ` Steven Rostedt
2012-02-03 14:22                         ` [PATCHv8 0/2] first 2 patches passed review Jiri Olsa
2012-02-03 14:22                           ` [PATCH 1/2] ftrace: Change filter/notrace set functions to return exit code Jiri Olsa
2012-02-03 14:22                           ` [PATCH 2/2] ftrace: Add enable/disable ftrace_ops control interface Jiri Olsa
2012-02-04 13:24                           ` [PATCHv8 0/2] first 2 patches passed review Frederic Weisbecker
2012-02-03 13:40               ` [PATCH 2/7] ftrace: Add enable/disable ftrace_ops control interface Steven Rostedt
2012-01-28 18:43             ` [PATCH 3/7] ftrace, perf: Add open/close tracepoint perf registration actions Jiri Olsa
2012-02-02 17:35               ` Frederic Weisbecker
2012-02-03 10:23                 ` Jiri Olsa
2012-01-28 18:43             ` [PATCH 4/7] ftrace, perf: Add add/del " Jiri Olsa
2012-02-02 17:42               ` Frederic Weisbecker
2012-01-28 18:43             ` [PATCH 5/7] ftrace, perf: Add support to use function tracepoint in perf Jiri Olsa
2012-02-02 18:14               ` Frederic Weisbecker
2012-02-03 12:54                 ` Jiri Olsa
2012-02-03 13:00                   ` Jiri Olsa
2012-02-03 14:07                     ` Steven Rostedt
2012-02-04 13:21                   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2012-02-06 19:35                     ` Steven Rostedt
2012-02-03 13:53                 ` Steven Rostedt
2012-01-28 18:43             ` [PATCH 6/7] ftrace, perf: Distinguish ftrace function event field type Jiri Olsa
2012-02-03 14:16               ` Steven Rostedt
2012-01-28 18:43             ` [PATCH 7/7] ftrace, perf: Add filter support for function trace event Jiri Olsa
2012-02-07  0:20               ` Jiri Olsa
2012-02-07 19:44             ` [PATCHv8 0/8] ftrace, perf: Adding support to use function trace Jiri Olsa
2012-02-07 19:44               ` [PATCH 1/8] ftrace: Change filter/notrace set functions to return exit code Jiri Olsa
2012-02-07 19:44               ` [PATCH 2/8] ftrace: Add enable/disable ftrace_ops control interface Jiri Olsa
2012-02-07 19:44               ` [PATCH 3/8] ftrace, perf: Add open/close tracepoint perf registration actions Jiri Olsa
2012-02-07 19:44               ` [PATCH 4/8] ftrace, perf: Add add/del " Jiri Olsa
2012-02-07 19:44               ` [PATCH 5/8] ftrace: Add FTRACE_ENTRY_REG macro to allow event registration Jiri Olsa
2012-02-07 19:44               ` [PATCH 6/8] ftrace, perf: Add support to use function tracepoint in perf Jiri Olsa
2012-02-07 19:44               ` [PATCH 7/8] ftrace: Allow to specify filter field type for ftrace events Jiri Olsa
2012-02-07 19:44               ` [PATCH 8/8] ftrace, perf: Add filter support for function trace event Jiri Olsa
2012-02-10 13:27               ` [PATCHv8 0/8] ftrace, perf: Adding support to use function trace Steven Rostedt
2012-02-10 14:45                 ` Steven Rostedt
2012-02-10 16:07                   ` Jiri Olsa
2012-02-10 16:48                     ` Frederic Weisbecker
2012-02-10 18:00                       ` Steven Rostedt
2012-02-10 18:05                         ` Frederic Weisbecker
2012-02-10 18:23                           ` David Ahern
2012-02-13 18:02               ` Steven Rostedt

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