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From: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
To: Philipp Reisner <philipp.reisner@linbit.com>,
	Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>,
	drbd-dev@lists.linbit.com
Subject: Re: [Drbd-dev] FLUSH/FUA documentation & code discrepancy
Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2012 14:29:52 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120906212952.GP29092@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120905100724.GA27527@soda.linbit>

Hello,

On Wed, Sep 05, 2012 at 12:07:24PM +0200, Lars Ellenberg wrote:
> So reiterating the situation:
> 
> If I'd submit a non-empty bio with FLUSH/FUA set,
> on a queue that does support flush, we get to
> 	blk_queue_bio()
> 		if (bio->bi_rw & (REQ_FLUSH | REQ_FUA)) {
> 			spin_lock_irq(q->queue_lock);
> 			where = ELEVATOR_INSERT_FLUSH;
> 			goto get_rq;
> 
> This bio ends up *not* being merged or reordered by the elevator.
> (and, by means of flush/fua not by the hardware, either, obviously)
> 
> If the queue does not support it, flags are stripped away in
> generic_make_request_checks(), and we will not take that branch
> in blk_queue_bio(), but enter the normal elevator code path,
> attempting a merge, or doing ELEVATOR_INSERT_SORT.

which is an implementation detail.

> This same bio, happening to be submitted on a different IO stack,
> now *is* being reordered in the elevator already,
> even before being sent to the hardware.

and this is perfectly fine.

I really don't see what problem you're trying to solve here.  The
ordering requirement is weak.  Certain implementation path uses
stronger requirement for convenience / historical reasons.  If any
change makes sense, it's relaxing the unnecessarily strict ordering if
possible.

What actual problem are you seeing?

Thanks.

-- 
tejun

  reply	other threads:[~2012-09-06 21:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-09-04 12:32 FLUSH/FUA documentation & code discrepancy Philipp Reisner
2012-09-04 22:46 ` Tejun Heo
2012-09-05  8:44   ` [Drbd-dev] " Philipp Reisner
2012-09-05  8:49     ` Tejun Heo
2012-09-05 10:07       ` Lars Ellenberg
2012-09-06 21:29         ` Tejun Heo [this message]
2012-09-07  8:42           ` Lars Ellenberg
2012-09-10 22:54             ` Tejun Heo
2012-09-10 23:06               ` Tejun Heo
2012-09-10 23:12                 ` Kent Overstreet
2012-09-10 23:31                 ` Kent Overstreet
2012-09-11  5:58                   ` NeilBrown
2012-09-11  8:25                     ` Lars Ellenberg
2012-09-11 14:41                       ` Vivek Goyal
2012-09-12 18:58                       ` Tejun Heo
2012-09-12 23:12                         ` Joseph Glanville
2012-09-12 23:20                           ` Tejun Heo
2012-09-12 23:53                             ` Joseph Glanville
2012-09-13  0:17                               ` Joseph Glanville
2012-09-13  3:10                                 ` Joseph Glanville
2012-09-13 19:25                                   ` Tejun Heo
2012-09-11 14:34                 ` Vivek Goyal

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