From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1759921Ab2INSxb (ORCPT ); Fri, 14 Sep 2012 14:53:31 -0400 Received: from mail-pb0-f46.google.com ([209.85.160.46]:54551 "EHLO mail-pb0-f46.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1756939Ab2INSxa (ORCPT ); Fri, 14 Sep 2012 14:53:30 -0400 Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2012 11:53:24 -0700 From: Tejun Heo To: Vivek Goyal Cc: containers@lists.linux-foundation.org, cgroups@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Li Zefan , Michal Hocko , Glauber Costa , Peter Zijlstra , Paul Turner , Johannes Weiner , Thomas Graf , Paul Mackerras , Ingo Molnar , Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo , Neil Horman , "Aneesh Kumar K.V" , Serge Hallyn Subject: Re: [RFC] cgroup TODOs Message-ID: <20120914185324.GI17747@google.com> References: <20120913205827.GO7677@google.com> <20120914180754.GF6221@redhat.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20120914180754.GF6221@redhat.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Hello, Vivek. On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 02:07:54PM -0400, Vivek Goyal wrote: > I am curious that why are you planning to provide capability of controller > specific view of hierarchy. To me it sounds pretty close to having > separate hierarchies per controller. Just that it is a little more > restricted configuration. I think it's a lot less crazy and gives us a way to bind a resource to a set of controller cgroups regardless which task is looking at it, which is something we're sorely missing now. > IOW, who is is the user of this functionality and who is asking for it. > Can we go all out where all controllers have only one hierarchy view. I think the issue is that controllers inherently have overhead and behavior alterations depending on the tree organization. At least from the usage I see from google which uses nested cgroups extensively, at least that level of flexibility seems necessary. In addition, for some resources, granularity beyond certain point simply doesn't work. Per-service granularity might make sense for cpu but applying it by default would be silly for blkio. Thanks. -- tejun