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From: Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
Cc: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	Vince Weaver <vincent.weaver@maine.edu>,
	Linux Kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, Jiri Olsa <jolsa@redhat.com>,
	Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@ghostprotocols.net>
Subject: Re: perf_fuzzer compiled for x32 causes reboot
Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2014 10:50:42 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140301095042.GA16524@pd.tnic> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140301091650.GD5885@gmail.com>

On Sat, Mar 01, 2014 at 10:16:50AM +0100, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> 
> * Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org> wrote:
> 
> > > Also, this function is called a _LOT_ under certain workloads, I 
> > > don't know how cheap a CR2 read is, but it had better be really 
> > > cheap.
> > 
> > That's a HPA question.
> 
> We read CR2 in the page fault hot path, so it's on the top of CPU 
> architects' minds and it's reasonably optimized. A couple of cycles 
> IIRC, but would be nice to hear actual numbers.

Yeah, we were discussing this last night on IRC.

And hpa actually meant that the optimization potential was there but no
one did do it, except maybe Transmeta. :-)

So the expensive thing is writing to CR2 because it is a serializing
instruction. In fact, all writes to control registers except CR8 are
serializing.

The reading from CR2 should be cheaper but not as cheap as a normal
MOV %reg %reg is. On AMD, MOV %reg, %cr2 is done with microcode so
definitely at least a couple of cycles and I'd guess it is not a trivial
MOV on Intel too.

Maybe a way to hide this cost is the OoO, as hpa suggested, depending on
how much parallelism that particular code region can offer (serializing
instructions close by).

-- 
Regards/Gruss,
    Boris.

Sent from a fat crate under my desk. Formatting is fine.
--

  reply	other threads:[~2014-03-01  9:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 115+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-02-21 20:25 perf_fuzzer causes reboot Vince Weaver
2014-02-21 22:13 ` perf_fuzzer compiled for x32 " Vince Weaver
2014-02-21 22:34   ` Vince Weaver
2014-02-22  4:50     ` Vince Weaver
2014-02-22  5:03       ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-02-22  6:26       ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-02-23  5:18         ` Vince Weaver
2014-02-23  5:24           ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-02-23  6:07           ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-02-23 14:05             ` Vince Weaver
2014-02-24  3:02               ` Vince Weaver
2014-02-24  5:22                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-02-24 15:35                   ` Vince Weaver
2014-02-24 16:34                     ` Vince Weaver
2014-02-24 16:47                       ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-02-24 17:10                         ` Vince Weaver
2014-02-24 17:25                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-02-24 17:32                             ` Vince Weaver
2014-02-24 17:40                               ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-02-24 18:00                                 ` Vince Weaver
2014-02-24 18:07                                   ` Vince Weaver
2014-02-24 18:34                                     ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-02-24 19:13                                       ` Steven Rostedt
2014-02-24 19:15                                         ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-02-24 19:30                                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-02-24 19:32                                           ` Steven Rostedt
2014-02-25  3:49                                           ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-02-25 14:07                                             ` Vince Weaver
2014-02-25 14:34                                               ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-02-25 14:43                                                 ` Steven Rostedt
2014-02-25 15:33                                                   ` Vince Weaver
2014-02-26 15:06                                                     ` Vince Weaver
2014-02-27 22:06                                                       ` Vince Weaver
2014-02-27 22:31                                                         ` Steven Rostedt
2014-02-27 22:52                                                           ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-02-27 23:30                                                             ` Steven Rostedt
2014-02-27 23:46                                                               ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-02-28  1:00                                                                 ` Vince Weaver
2014-02-28 20:34                                                                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-02-28 20:47                                                                     ` Steven Rostedt
2014-02-28 20:54                                                                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-02-28 21:17                                                                         ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-02-28 21:27                                                                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-02-28 21:51                                                                             ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-02-28 21:55                                                                               ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-02-28 22:05                                                                                 ` Steven Rostedt
2014-02-28 22:23                                                                                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-02-28  1:34                                                             ` Vince Weaver
2014-02-28  2:17                                                               ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-02-28  2:57                                                               ` Steven Rostedt
2014-02-28 11:11                                                                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-02-28 13:37                                                                   ` Steven Rostedt
2014-02-28 14:15                                                                 ` Vince Weaver
2014-02-28 14:23                                                                   ` Steven Rostedt
2014-02-28 15:07                                                                     ` Vince Weaver
2014-02-28 15:13                                                                       ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-02-28 15:40                                                                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-02-28 16:15                                                                           ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-02-28 16:29                                                                             ` Steven Rostedt
2014-02-28 19:33                                                                               ` [PATCH] x86: Rename copy_from_user_nmi() to copy_from_user_trace() Steven Rostedt
2014-02-28 20:46                                                                                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-02-28 20:51                                                                                   ` Steven Rostedt
2014-02-28 20:58                                                                                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-02-28 21:01                                                                                   ` Steven Rostedt
2014-02-28 21:17                                                                                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-02-28 20:56                                                                               ` perf_fuzzer compiled for x32 causes reboot Peter Zijlstra
2014-02-28 21:06                                                                                 ` Steven Rostedt
2014-03-01  9:16                                                                                   ` Ingo Molnar
2014-03-01  9:50                                                                                     ` Borislav Petkov [this message]
2014-03-01 16:50                                                                                       ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-03-04 23:05                                                                                         ` Borislav Petkov
2014-03-03  9:16                                                                                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-02-28 20:55                                                                             ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-02-28 15:20                                                                       ` Steven Rostedt
2014-02-28 15:30                                                                         ` Steven Rostedt
2014-02-28 20:38                                                                       ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-02-28 20:46                                                                         ` Steven Rostedt
2014-02-28 21:18                                                                         ` Vince Weaver
2014-02-28 21:30                                                                           ` Steven Rostedt
2014-02-28 23:34                                                                             ` Vince Weaver
2014-03-01  0:43                                                                               ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-03-01  3:36                                                                               ` Steven Rostedt
2014-03-01 16:24                                                                                 ` Andi Kleen
2014-03-02 15:34                                                                                   ` Vince Weaver
2014-03-02 16:02                                                                                 ` Vince Weaver
2014-02-28  9:39                                                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-02-24 17:40                               ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-02-24 17:41                               ` Vince Weaver
2014-02-24 17:42                                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-02-24 17:52                             ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-02-28 15:33 [PATCH] x86 trace: Fix page fault tracing bug Jiri Olsa
2014-02-28 15:47 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-02-28 16:05   ` [PATCHv2] " Jiri Olsa
2014-02-28 16:11     ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-02-28 16:23       ` Steven Rostedt
2014-02-28 16:15     ` Steven Rostedt
2014-03-05  0:03     ` [tip:x86/urgent] x86, trace: Fix CR2 corruption when tracing page faults tip-bot for Jiri Olsa
2014-03-05 11:14       ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-03-05 12:20         ` Steven Rostedt
2014-03-05 12:25           ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-03-05 12:33             ` Steven Rostedt
2014-03-05 12:54               ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-03-05 13:02                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-03-05 13:07                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-03-05 12:36             ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-03-05 13:00               ` Steven Rostedt
2014-03-05 13:08                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-03-05 21:37                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-03-06  8:40                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2014-03-06 11:02                       ` Steven Rostedt
2014-03-06 14:53                         ` [PATCH] x86: Further robustify CR2 handling vs tracing Peter Zijlstra
2014-03-07 23:07                           ` [tip:x86/urgent] x86, trace: " tip-bot for Peter Zijlstra
2014-02-28 15:47 ` [PATCH] x86 trace: Fix page fault tracing bug Jiri Olsa
2014-02-28 16:00   ` Steven Rostedt
2014-02-28 16:01 ` Steven Rostedt

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