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From: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
To: Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-arch@vger.kernel.org,
	axboe@kernel.dk, riel@redhat.com, linux-nvdimm@ml01.01.org,
	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
	linux-raid@vger.kernel.org, mgorman@suse.de, hch@infradead.org,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	Matthew Wilcox <willy@linux.intel.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/7] evacuate struct page from the block layer
Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2015 13:26:50 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150318132650.3336261c58829f49a9af8675@linux-foundation.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150316201640.33102.33761.stgit@dwillia2-desk3.amr.corp.intel.com>

On Mon, 16 Mar 2015 16:25:25 -0400 Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com> wrote:

> Avoid the impending disaster of requiring struct page coverage for what
> is expected to be ever increasing capacities of persistent memory.  In
> conversations with Rik van Riel, Mel Gorman, and Jens Axboe at the
> recently concluded Linux Storage Summit it became clear that struct page
> is not required in many places, it was simply convenient to re-use.
> 
> Introduce helpers and infrastructure to remove struct page usage where
> it is not necessary.  One use case for these changes is to implement a
> write-back-cache in persistent memory for software-RAID.  Another use
> case for the scatterlist changes is RDMA to a pfn-range.

Those use-cases sound very thin.  If that's all we have then I'd say
"find another way of implementing those things without creating
pageframes for persistent memory".

IOW, please tell us much much much more about the value of this change.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2015-03-18 20:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-03-16 20:25 [RFC PATCH 0/7] evacuate struct page from the block layer Dan Williams
2015-03-16 20:25 ` [RFC PATCH 1/7] block: add helpers for accessing a bio_vec page Dan Williams
2015-03-16 20:25 ` [RFC PATCH 2/7] block: convert bio_vec.bv_page to bv_pfn Dan Williams
2015-03-16 23:05   ` Al Viro
2015-03-17 13:02     ` Matthew Wilcox
2015-03-17 15:53       ` Dan Williams
2015-03-16 20:25 ` [RFC PATCH 3/7] dma-mapping: allow archs to optionally specify a ->map_pfn() operation Dan Williams
2015-03-18 11:21   ` [Linux-nvdimm] " Boaz Harrosh
2015-03-16 20:25 ` [RFC PATCH 4/7] scatterlist: use sg_phys() Dan Williams
2015-03-16 20:25 ` [RFC PATCH 5/7] scatterlist: support "page-less" (__pfn_t only) entries Dan Williams
2015-03-16 20:25 ` [RFC PATCH 6/7] x86: support dma_map_pfn() Dan Williams
2015-03-16 20:26 ` [RFC PATCH 7/7] block: base support for pfn i/o Dan Williams
2015-03-18 10:47 ` [RFC PATCH 0/7] evacuate struct page from the block layer Boaz Harrosh
2015-03-18 13:06   ` Matthew Wilcox
2015-03-18 14:38     ` [Linux-nvdimm] " Boaz Harrosh
2015-03-20 15:56       ` Rik van Riel
2015-03-22 11:53         ` Boaz Harrosh
2015-03-18 15:35   ` Dan Williams
2015-03-18 20:26 ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2015-03-19 13:43   ` Matthew Wilcox
2015-03-19 15:54     ` [Linux-nvdimm] " Boaz Harrosh
2015-03-19 19:59       ` Andrew Morton
2015-03-19 20:59         ` Dan Williams
2015-03-22 17:22           ` Boaz Harrosh
2015-03-20 17:32         ` Wols Lists
2015-03-22 10:30         ` Boaz Harrosh
2015-03-19 18:17     ` Christoph Hellwig
2015-03-19 19:31       ` Matthew Wilcox
2015-03-22 16:46       ` Boaz Harrosh
2015-03-20 16:21     ` Rik van Riel
2015-03-20 20:31       ` Matthew Wilcox
2015-03-20 21:08         ` Rik van Riel
2015-03-22 17:06           ` Boaz Harrosh
2015-03-22 17:22             ` Dan Williams
2015-03-22 17:39               ` Boaz Harrosh
2015-03-20 21:17         ` Wols Lists
2015-03-22 16:24         ` Boaz Harrosh
2015-03-22 15:51       ` Boaz Harrosh
2015-03-23 15:19         ` Rik van Riel
2015-03-23 19:30           ` Christoph Hellwig
2015-03-24  9:41           ` Boaz Harrosh
2015-03-24 16:57             ` Rik van Riel

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