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From: Huang Rui <ray.huang@amd.com>
To: Vince Weaver <vincent.weaver@maine.edu>
Cc: Borislav Petkov <bp@suse.de>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	"Peter Zijlstra" <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
	"Andy Lutomirski" <luto@amacapital.net>,
	Robert Richter <rric@kernel.org>,
	"Jacob Shin" <jacob.w.shin@gmail.com>,
	Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@kernel.org>,
	Kan Liang <kan.liang@intel.com>, <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	<x86@kernel.org>,
	Suravee Suthikulpanit <suravee.suthikulpanit@amd.com>,
	Aravind Gopalakrishnan <Aravind.Gopalakrishnan@amd.com>,
	Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
	Guenter Roeck <linux@roeck-us.net>,
	Fengguang Wu <fengguang.wu@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [REDO PATCH v7] perf/x86/amd/power: Add AMD accumulated power reporting mechanism
Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2016 13:59:34 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160616055933.GA8522@hr-amur2> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160616053802.GA7810@hr-amur2>

On Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 01:38:13PM +0800, Huang Rui wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 15, 2016 at 09:13:59PM -0400, Vince Weaver wrote:
> > 
> > 2.  Unless I'm misunderstanding things, the code seems to be accumulating 
> > 	Power. (see chunk below) Power is an instantaneous measurement, it 
> > 	makes no sense to add values.  If you use 5W for 1ms and 10W for
> > 	1ms, the average power across the 2ms interval is not 15W.
> > 
> > 	You can add energy, but not power.
> > 
> > > +	delta *= cpu_pwr_sample_ratio * 1000;
> > > +	tdelta = new_ptsc - prev_ptsc;
> > > +
> > > +	do_div(delta, tdelta);
> > > +	local64_add(delta, &event->count);
> > 
> 
> You're right. Nice catch! The average power is per compute unit. We
> cannot add the power simplely for each processor/package.
> 
> So here, the average power per package should be (delta1 + delta2 + ... + deltaN)/(tdelta_avg).
> I will work out a fix. Thanks to point out.
> 

After considering carefully, the original method should be OK. 

      AMD nomenclature for CMT systems:

        [node 0] -> [Compute Unit 0] -> [Compute Unit Core 0] -> Linux CPU 0
                                     -> [Compute Unit Core 1] -> Linux CPU 1
                 -> [Compute Unit 1] -> [Compute Unit Core 0] -> Linux CPU 2
                                     -> [Compute Unit Core 1] -> Linux CPU 3

The deltaN is power per compute unit. Current one package has two CUs.
In the *same* interval, CU0's power is 10W, CU1's power is 15W. The
package (CU0 + CU1) power should be 15W, right? Because the interval
is the same.

Q = Q1 + Q2.  P = Q/t = (Q1 + Q2)/t = Q1/t + Q2/t = P1 + P2.

Is that clear?

Thanks,
Rui

  reply	other threads:[~2016-06-16  5:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-03-09  5:45 [REDO PATCH v7] perf/x86/amd/power: Add AMD accumulated power reporting mechanism Huang Rui
2016-03-21  9:55 ` [tip:perf/urgent] " tip-bot for Huang Rui
2016-06-16  1:13 ` [REDO PATCH v7] " Vince Weaver
2016-06-16  5:38   ` Huang Rui
2016-06-16  5:59     ` Huang Rui [this message]
2016-06-16 21:10       ` Vince Weaver
2016-06-16 21:16         ` Vince Weaver
2016-06-16 21:36           ` Borislav Petkov
2016-06-16 16:47     ` Borislav Petkov
2016-06-17  9:58       ` Huang Rui
2016-07-19 18:22         ` Vince Weaver
2016-07-20  2:58           ` Huang Rui
2016-06-16 20:44     ` Vince Weaver
2016-06-17 10:03       ` Huang Rui
2016-06-17 15:54         ` Vince Weaver

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