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From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>
To: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>, Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 2/2] xfs: map KM_MAYFAIL to __GFP_RETRY_HARD
Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2016 13:26:06 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160616112606.GH6836@dhcp22.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160616080355.GB6836@dhcp22.suse.cz>

On Thu 16-06-16 10:03:55, Michal Hocko wrote:
> On Thu 16-06-16 10:23:02, Dave Chinner wrote:
> > On Mon, Jun 06, 2016 at 01:32:16PM +0200, Michal Hocko wrote:
> > > From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
> > > 
> > > KM_MAYFAIL didn't have any suitable GFP_FOO counterpart until recently
> > > so it relied on the default page allocator behavior for the given set
> > > of flags. This means that small allocations actually never failed.
> > > 
> > > Now that we have __GFP_RETRY_HARD flags which works independently on the
> > > allocation request size we can map KM_MAYFAIL to it. The allocator will
> > > try as hard as it can to fulfill the request but fails eventually if
> > > the progress cannot be made.
> > > 
> > > Signed-off-by: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
> > > ---
> > >  fs/xfs/kmem.h | 3 +++
> > >  1 file changed, 3 insertions(+)
> > > 
> > > diff --git a/fs/xfs/kmem.h b/fs/xfs/kmem.h
> > > index 689f746224e7..34e6b062ce0e 100644
> > > --- a/fs/xfs/kmem.h
> > > +++ b/fs/xfs/kmem.h
> > > @@ -54,6 +54,9 @@ kmem_flags_convert(xfs_km_flags_t flags)
> > >  			lflags &= ~__GFP_FS;
> > >  	}
> > >  
> > > +	if (flags & KM_MAYFAIL)
> > > +		lflags |= __GFP_RETRY_HARD;
> > > +
> > 
> > I don't understand. KM_MAYFAIL means "caller handles
> > allocation failure, so retry on failure is not required." To then
> > map KM_MAYFAIL to a flag that implies the allocation will internally
> > retry to try exceptionally hard to prevent failure seems wrong.
> 
> The primary point, which I've tried to describe in the changelog, is
> that the default allocator behavior is to retry endlessly for small
> orders. You can override this by using __GFP_NORETRY which doesn't retry
> at all and fails quite early. My understanding of KM_MAYFAIL is that
> it can cope with allocation failures. The lack of __GFP_NORETRY made me
> think that the failure should be prevented as much as possible.
> __GFP_RETRY_HARD is semantically somwhere in the middle between
> __GFP_NORETRY and __GFP_NOFAIL semantic independently on the allocation
> size.
> 
> Does that make more sense now?

I would add the following explanation into the code:
diff --git a/fs/xfs/kmem.h b/fs/xfs/kmem.h
index 34e6b062ce0e..10708f065191 100644
--- a/fs/xfs/kmem.h
+++ b/fs/xfs/kmem.h
@@ -54,6 +54,13 @@ kmem_flags_convert(xfs_km_flags_t flags)
 			lflags &= ~__GFP_FS;
 	}
 
+	/*
+	 * Default page/slab allocator behavior is to retry for ever
+	 * for small allocations. We can override this behavior by using
+	 * __GFP_RETRY_HARD which will tell the allocator to retry as long
+	 * as it is feasible but rather fail than retry for ever for all
+	 * request sizes.
+	 */
 	if (flags & KM_MAYFAIL)
 		lflags |= __GFP_RETRY_HARD;
 

-- 
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs

  reply	other threads:[~2016-06-16 11:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-06-06 11:32 [RFC PATCH 0/2] mm: give GFP_REPEAT a better semantic Michal Hocko
2016-06-06 11:32 ` [RFC PATCH 1/2] mm, tree wide: replace __GFP_REPEAT by __GFP_RETRY_HARD with more useful semantic Michal Hocko
2016-06-07 12:11   ` Tetsuo Handa
2016-06-07 12:31     ` Michal Hocko
2016-06-11 14:35       ` Tetsuo Handa
2016-06-13 11:37         ` Michal Hocko
2016-06-13 14:54           ` Tetsuo Handa
2016-06-13 15:17             ` Michal Hocko
2016-06-14 11:12               ` Tetsuo Handa
2016-06-14 18:54                 ` Michal Hocko
2016-06-06 11:32 ` [RFC PATCH 2/2] xfs: map KM_MAYFAIL to __GFP_RETRY_HARD Michal Hocko
2016-06-16  0:23   ` Dave Chinner
2016-06-16  8:03     ` Michal Hocko
2016-06-16 11:26       ` Michal Hocko [this message]
2016-06-17 18:22         ` Johannes Weiner
2016-06-17 20:30           ` Vlastimil Babka
2016-06-17 21:39             ` Johannes Weiner
2016-06-20  8:08               ` Michal Hocko
2016-06-21  4:22                 ` Johannes Weiner
2016-06-21  9:29                   ` Vlastimil Babka
2016-06-21 17:00                   ` Michal Hocko
2016-10-06 11:14 ` [RFC PATCH 0/2] mm: give GFP_REPEAT a better semantic Michal Hocko

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