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From: Davidlohr Bueso <dave@stgolabs.net>
To: Waiman Long <waiman.long@hpe.com>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, x86@kernel.org,
	linux-alpha@vger.kernel.org, linux-ia64@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-s390@vger.kernel.org, linux-arch@vger.kernel.org,
	Jason Low <jason.low2@hp.com>, Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>,
	Scott J Norton <scott.norton@hpe.com>,
	Douglas Hatch <doug.hatch@hpe.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH-tip v2 1/6] locking/osq: Make lock/unlock proper acquire/release barrier
Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2016 09:46:59 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160617164659.GC14591@linux-80c1.suse> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160617162926.GB14591@linux-80c1.suse>

On Fri, 17 Jun 2016, Davidlohr Bueso wrote:

>On Fri, 17 Jun 2016, Waiman Long wrote:
>
>>On 06/16/2016 09:11 PM, Davidlohr Bueso wrote:
>>>On Wed, 15 Jun 2016, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
>>>
>>>>Yeah, see a few patches further in this series, where he guards a
>>>>variables with the osq_lock.
>>>
>>>So one problem I have with all this is that if we are hardening 
>>>osq_lock/unlock()
>>>because of some future use that is specific to rwsems, then we 
>>>will immediately
>>>be hurting mutexes for no good reason.
>>>
>>
>>I am going to change it to use smp_acquire__after_ctrl_dep() as 
>>suggested by PeterZ. Is that a good enough compromise? I have also 
>>changed the xchg in the unlock side to xchg_release which could help 
>>performance in some archs. The thing is when developers see the name 
>>osq_lock/osq_unlock, they will naturally assume the proper barrriers 
>>are provided which is not currently the case.
>
>Oh, from your discussions with Boqun, I was under the impression that ->locked
>was now going to be properly ordered in all cases now, which is why
>I worry about mutexes.
>
>>Anyway, the change won't affect x86, it is probably ARM or PPC that 
>>may have an impact.
>
>Yes, that xchg() won't affect x86, but adding an smp_store_release(node->locked, 1)
>or such will obviously.

nm this last part, you're right, x86 smp_store_release is a nop.

  reply	other threads:[~2016-06-17 16:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-06-14 22:48 [RFC PATCH-tip v2 0/6] locking/rwsem: Enable reader optimistic spinning Waiman Long
2016-06-14 22:48 ` [RFC PATCH-tip v2 1/6] locking/osq: Make lock/unlock proper acquire/release barrier Waiman Long
2016-06-15  8:04   ` Boqun Feng
2016-06-15 17:18     ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-06-15 19:01     ` Waiman Long
2016-06-16  2:19       ` Boqun Feng
2016-06-16 10:16         ` Will Deacon
2016-06-16 21:35         ` Waiman Long
2016-06-17  0:48           ` Boqun Feng
2016-06-17 15:26             ` Waiman Long
2016-06-17 15:45               ` Will Deacon
2016-06-17 18:17                 ` Waiman Long
2016-06-18  8:46                   ` Boqun Feng
2016-06-20  7:59                     ` Will Deacon
2016-06-15 16:56   ` Davidlohr Bueso
2016-06-15 17:12     ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-06-15 18:27       ` Davidlohr Bueso
2016-06-15 18:40         ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-06-15 18:56           ` Davidlohr Bueso
2016-06-17  1:11           ` Davidlohr Bueso
2016-06-17 14:28             ` Waiman Long
2016-06-17 16:29               ` Davidlohr Bueso
2016-06-17 16:46                 ` Davidlohr Bueso [this message]
2016-06-15 19:08       ` Waiman Long
2016-06-15 20:04         ` Waiman Long
2016-06-15 21:59           ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-06-14 22:48 ` [RFC PATCH-tip v2 2/6] locking/rwsem: Stop active read lock ASAP Waiman Long
2016-06-15 17:22   ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-06-15 19:17     ` Waiman Long
2016-06-16  2:14       ` Davidlohr Bueso
2016-06-16 21:25         ` Waiman Long
2016-06-14 22:48 ` [RFC PATCH-tip v2 3/6] locking/rwsem: Enable count-based spinning on reader Waiman Long
2016-06-15 17:38   ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-06-15 19:28     ` Waiman Long
2016-06-14 22:48 ` [RFC PATCH-tip v2 4/6] locking/rwsem: move down rwsem_down_read_failed function Waiman Long
2016-06-15 17:40   ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-06-15 19:21     ` Waiman Long
2016-06-14 22:48 ` [RFC PATCH-tip v2 5/6] locking/rwsem: Change RWSEM_WAITING_BIAS for better disambiguation Waiman Long
2016-06-15 17:43   ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-06-15 19:31     ` Waiman Long
2016-06-15 21:57       ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-06-15 17:45   ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-06-15 19:35     ` Waiman Long
2016-06-14 22:48 ` [RFC PATCH-tip v2 6/6] locking/rwsem: Enable spinning readers Waiman Long

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