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From: Sergey Senozhatsky <sergey.senozhatsky.work@gmail.com>
To: Petr Mladek <pmladek@suse.com>
Cc: Viresh Kumar <viresh.kumar@linaro.org>, Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Sergey Senozhatsky <sergey.senozhatsky@gmail.com>,
	Jan Kara <jack@suse.com>, Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>,
	Tetsuo Handa <penguin-kernel@i-love.sakura.ne.jp>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Byungchul Park <byungchul.park@lge.com>,
	Sergey Senozhatsky <sergey.senozhatsky.work@gmail.com>,
	vlevenetz@mm-sol.com,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v10 1/2] printk: Make printk() completely async
Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2016 11:27:12 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160818022712.GB500@swordfish> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160812094447.GD7339@pathway.suse.cz>

Hello,

really sorry for very long reply.

On (08/12/16 11:44), Petr Mladek wrote:
[..]
> IMHO, this is fine. We force the synchronous mode in critical
> situations anyway.

yes, I think it makes sense to lower the priority (we also have
briefly discussed this in private emails with Viresh). I'd still
prefer to have forced sync-printk on suspend/hibernate/etc., though.

> But I was curious if we could hit a printk from the wake_up_process().
> The change above causes using the fair scheduler and there is
> the following call chain [*]
> 
>   vprintk_emit()
>   -> wake_up_process()
>    -> try_to_wake_up()
>     -> ttwu_queue()
>      -> ttwu_do_activate()
>       -> ttwu_activate()
>        -> activate_task()
> 	-> enqueue_task()
> 	 -> enqueue_task_fair()	    via p->sched_class->enqueue_task
> 	  -> cfs_rq_of()
> 	   -> task_of()
> 	    -> WARN_ON_ONCE(!entity_is_task(se))
> 
> We should never trigger this because printk_kthread is a task.
> But what if the date gets inconsistent?
> 
> Then there is the following chain:
> 
>   vprintk_emit()
>   -> wake_up_process()
>    -> try_to_wake_up()
>     -> ttwu_queue()
>      -> ttwu_do_activate()
>       -> ttwu_activate()
>        -> activate_task()
> 	-> enqueue_task()
> 	 -> enqueue_task_fair()	    via p->sched_class->enqueue_task
> 	  ->hrtick_update()
> 	   -> hrtick_start_fair()
> 	    -> WARN_ON(task_rq(p) != rq)
> 
> This looks like another paranoid consistency check that might be
> triggered when the scheduler gets messed.
> 
> I see few possible solutions:
> 
> 1. Replace the WARN_ONs by printk_deferred().
> 
>    This is the usual solution but it would make debugging less convenient.

what I did internally was a combination of #1 and #3: I introduced a
dump_stack_deferred() function which is basically (almost) a copy-past
of dump_stack() from lib/dump_stack.c with the difference that it calls
printk_deferred(). and added a WARN_ON_DEFERRED() macro.


> 2. Force synchronous printk inside WARN()/BUG() macros.

will it help? semaphore up() calls wake_up_process() regardless the context.
not to mention that we still may have spin_dump() enabled.


> 3. Force printk_deferred() inside WARN()/BUG() macros via the per-CPU
>    printk_func.
> 
>    It might be elegant. But we do not want this outside the scheduler
>    code. Therefore we would need special variants of  WARN_*_SCHED()
>    BUG_*_SCHED() macros.
>
> I personally prefer the 2nd solution. What do you think about it,
> please?

I personally think a combo of #1 and #3 is a bit better than plain #2.

	-ss

  parent reply	other threads:[~2016-08-18  2:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-04-04 16:57 [PATCH v10 0/2] printk: Make printk() completely async Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-04-04 16:57 ` [PATCH v10 1/2] " Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-04-04 22:51   ` Andrew Morton
2016-04-05  5:17     ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-04-05  7:39       ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-04-06  0:19         ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-04-06  8:27     ` Jan Kara
2016-04-07  9:48       ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-04-07 12:08         ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-04-07 13:15           ` Jan Kara
2016-08-10 21:17       ` Viresh Kumar
2016-08-12  9:44         ` Petr Mladek
2016-08-15 14:26           ` Vladislav Levenetz
2016-08-16  9:04             ` Petr Mladek
2016-08-18  2:27           ` Sergey Senozhatsky [this message]
2016-08-18  9:33             ` Petr Mladek
2016-08-18  9:51               ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-08-18 10:56                 ` Petr Mladek
2016-08-19  6:32                   ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-08-19  9:54                     ` Petr Mladek
2016-08-19 19:00                       ` Jan Kara
2016-08-20  5:24                         ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-08-22  4:15                           ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-08-23 12:19                             ` Petr Mladek
2016-08-24  1:33                               ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-08-25 21:10                             ` Petr Mladek
2016-08-26  1:56                               ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-08-26  8:20                                 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-08-30  9:29                                 ` Petr Mladek
2016-08-31  2:31                                   ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-08-31  9:38                                     ` Petr Mladek
2016-08-31 12:52                                       ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-09-01  8:58                                         ` Petr Mladek
2016-09-02  7:58                                           ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-09-02 15:15                                             ` Petr Mladek
2016-09-06  7:16                                               ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-08-23 13:03                           ` Petr Mladek
2016-08-23 13:48                         ` Petr Mladek
2016-04-04 16:57 ` [PATCH v10 2/2] printk: Make wake_up_klogd_work_func() async Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-08-23  3:32 [PATCH v10 1/2] printk: Make printk() completely async Andreas Mohr

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