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From: Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>
To: Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>
Cc: Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>, Linux-MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org" 
	<linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] arm64: Introduce execute-only page access permissions
Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2016 11:30:42 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160825103042.GA12599@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160816161824.GB7609@e104818-lin.cambridge.arm.com>

On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 05:18:24PM +0100, Catalin Marinas wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 15, 2016 at 10:45:09AM -0700, Kees Cook wrote:
> > On Mon, Aug 15, 2016 at 3:47 AM, Catalin Marinas
> > <catalin.marinas@arm.com> wrote:
> > > On Fri, Aug 12, 2016 at 11:23:03AM -0700, Kees Cook wrote:
> > >> On Thu, Aug 11, 2016 at 10:44 AM, Catalin Marinas
> > >> <catalin.marinas@arm.com> wrote:
> > >> > The ARMv8 architecture allows execute-only user permissions by clearing
> > >> > the PTE_UXN and PTE_USER bits. However, the kernel running on a CPU
> > >> > implementation without User Access Override (ARMv8.2 onwards) can still
> > >> > access such page, so execute-only page permission does not protect
> > >> > against read(2)/write(2) etc. accesses. Systems requiring such
> > >> > protection must enable features like SECCOMP.
> > >>
> > >> So, UAO CPUs will bypass this protection in userspace if using
> > >> read/write on a memory-mapped file?
> > >
> > > It's the other way around. CPUs prior to ARMv8.2 (when UAO was
> > > introduced) or with the CONFIG_ARM64_UAO disabled can still access
> > > user execute-only memory regions while running in kernel mode via the
> > > copy_*_user, (get|put)_user etc. routines. So a way user can bypass this
> > > protection is by using such address as argument to read/write file
> > > operations.
> > 
> > Ah, okay. So exec-only for _userspace_ will always work, but exec-only
> > for _kernel_ will only work on ARMv8.2 with CONFIG_ARM64_UAO?
> 
> Yes (mostly). With UAO, we changed the user access routines in the
> kernel to use the LDTR/STTR instructions which always behave
> unprivileged even when executed in kernel mode (unless the UAO bit is
> set to override this restriction, needed for set_fs(KERNEL_DS)).
> 
> Even with UAO, we still have two cases where the kernel cannot perform
> unprivileged accesses (LDTR/STTR) since they don't have an exclusives
> equivalent (LDXR/STXR). These are in-user futex atomic ops and the SWP
> emulation for 32-bit binaries (armv8_deprecated.c). But these require
> write permission, so they would always fault even when running in the
> kernel. futex_atomic_cmpxchg_inatomic() is able to return the old value
> without a write (if it differs from "oldval") but it doesn't look like
> such value could leak to user space.

If this was an issue, couldn't we add a dummy LDTR before the LDXR, and
have the fixup handler return -EFAULT?

Either way, this series looks technically fine to me:

Reviewed-by: Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>

but it would be good for some security-focussed person (Hi, Kees!) to
comment on whether or not this is useful, given the caveats you've
described. If it is, I can queue it for 4.9.

Will

  reply	other threads:[~2016-08-25 10:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-08-11 17:44 [PATCH] arm64: Introduce execute-only page access permissions Catalin Marinas
2016-08-12 18:23 ` Kees Cook
2016-08-15 10:47   ` Catalin Marinas
2016-08-15 17:45     ` Kees Cook
2016-08-16 16:18       ` Catalin Marinas
2016-08-25 10:30         ` Will Deacon [this message]
2016-08-25 15:24           ` Kees Cook

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