From: Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
To: Andrzej Hajda <a.hajda@samsung.com>
Cc: "Luis R. Rodriguez" <mcgrof@kernel.org>,
Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org>,
Lukas Wunner <lukas@wunner.de>,
"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@rjwysocki.net>,
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Kevin Hilman <khilman@kernel.org>,
Ulf Hansson <ulf.hansson@linaro.org>,
Laurent Pinchart <laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com>,
Lars-Peter Clausen <lars@metafoo.de>,
Grant Likely <grant.likely@secretlab.ca>,
Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab@osg.samsung.com>,
Dmitry Torokhov <dmitry.torokhov@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 2/5] driver core: Functional dependencies tracking support
Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2016 10:41:45 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20161109094145.GA9540@kroah.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <32dbffe7-5c68-88f9-4631-7b9cd6bf445e@samsung.com>
On Wed, Nov 09, 2016 at 10:36:54AM +0100, Andrzej Hajda wrote:
> On 09.11.2016 07:45, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
> > On Tue, Nov 08, 2016 at 09:58:24PM +0100, Luis R. Rodriguez wrote:
> >>>> Furthermore -- how does this framework compare to Andrzej's resource tracking
> >>>> solution? I confess I have not had a chance yet to review yet but in light of
> >>>> this question it would be good to know if Andrzej's framework also requires
> >>>> deferred probe as similar concerns would exist there as well.
> >>> I have no idea what "framework" you are talking about here, do you have
> >>> a pointer to patches?
> >> I'm surprised given Andrzej did both Cc you on his patches [2] *and* chimed
> >> in on Rafael's patches to indicate that we likely can integrate PM concerns
> >> into his own "framework" [3]. There was no resolution to this discussion, however
> >> its not IMHO sufficient to brush off Andrzej's points in particular because
> >> Andrzej *is* indicating that his framework:
> > Dude, those patches were from 2014! I can't remember patches people
> > sent to me a month ago...
> >
> >> - Eliminates deferred probe and resulting late_initcall(), consumer registers
> >> callbacks informing when given resources (clock, regulator, etc) becomes
> >> available
> >> - Properly handle resource disappearance (driver unbind, hotplug)
> >> - Track resources which are not vital to the device, but can influence behavior
> >> - Offers simplified resource allocation
> >> - Can be easily expanded to help with power management
> >>
> >> Granted I have not reviewed this yet but it at least was on my radar, and
> >> I do believe its worth reviewing this further given the generally expressed
> >> interest to see if we can have a common framework to address both ordering
> >> problems, suspend and probe. At a quick glance the "ghost provider" idea
> >> seems like a rather crazy idea but hey, there may be some goods in there.
> > >From what I remember, and I could be totally wrong, these patches were
> > way too complex and required that every subsystem change their
> > interfaces. That's not going to work out well, but read the email
> > threads for the details...
>
> I haven't seen your comment on my patches, except few general questions
> regarding one of earlier version of the framework.
> So maybe you are talking about different framework.
>
> Regarding complexity, if the subsystem have simple way of
> '(un)publishing' resources it just adds single calls to restrack core:
> restrack_up, restrack_down in proper places.
> Additionally it adds quite simple stuff to encapsulate resource
> description and allocation routines into generic *_restrack_desc
> structure, see for example patch adding restrack to phy framework[1].
Ok, again, I have no idea what my response was to a 2 year-old patchset,
again, I can't remember my response to a patchset that was sent just a
month ago...
update it, and repost and we can all go from there if you think it is a
viable solution.
thanks,
greg k-h
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-11-09 9:41 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 138+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-09-08 21:25 [RFC/RFT][PATCH v2 0/7] Functional dependencies between devices Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-09-08 21:26 ` [RFC/RFT][PATCH v2 1/7] driver core: Add a wrapper around __device_release_driver() Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-09-08 21:27 ` [RFC/RFT][PATCH v2 2/7] driver core: Functional dependencies tracking support Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-09-09 8:25 ` Ulf Hansson
2016-09-09 12:06 ` Mark Brown
2016-09-09 14:13 ` Ulf Hansson
2016-09-15 1:11 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-09-11 13:40 ` Lukas Wunner
2016-09-11 20:43 ` Lukas Wunner
2016-09-14 1:21 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-09-14 8:28 ` Lukas Wunner
2016-09-14 13:17 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-09-08 21:28 ` [RFC/RFT][PATCH v2 3/7] PM / sleep: Make async suspend/resume of devices use device links Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-09-10 13:31 ` Lukas Wunner
2016-09-10 22:12 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-09-08 21:29 ` [RFC/RFT][PATCH v2 4/7] PM / runtime: Pass flags argument to __pm_runtime_disable() Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-09-08 21:29 ` [RFC/RFT][PATCH v2 5/7] PM / runtime: Flag to indicate PM sleep transitions in progress Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-09-12 14:07 ` Lukas Wunner
2016-09-12 21:25 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-09-12 22:52 ` Lukas Wunner
2016-09-13 7:21 ` Marek Szyprowski
2016-09-13 23:59 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-09-08 21:30 ` [RFC/RFT][PATCH v2 6/7] PM / runtime: Use device links Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-09-12 9:47 ` Lukas Wunner
2016-09-12 13:57 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-09-14 1:19 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-09-08 21:31 ` [RFC/RFT][PATCH v2 7/7] PM / runtime: Optimize the use of " Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-09-08 21:35 ` [RFC/RFT][PATCH v2 0/7] Functional dependencies between devices Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-09-10 11:39 ` Lukas Wunner
2016-09-10 22:04 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-09-13 17:57 ` Lukas Wunner
2016-09-13 23:18 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-09-18 12:39 ` Lukas Wunner
[not found] ` <CGME20160913095858eucas1p267ec2397c9e4577f94557e4a38498164@eucas1p2.samsung.com>
2016-09-13 9:58 ` Marek Szyprowski
2016-09-13 22:41 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-09-18 11:23 ` Lukas Wunner
2016-09-15 22:03 ` [RFC/RFT][PATCH v3 0/5] " Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-09-15 22:04 ` [Resend][RFC/RFT][PATCH v3 1/5] driver core: Add a wrapper around __device_release_driver() Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-09-15 22:06 ` [RFC/RFT][PATCH v3 2/5] driver core: Functional dependencies tracking support Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-09-16 7:53 ` Marek Szyprowski
2016-09-16 12:06 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-09-16 12:33 ` [Update][RFC/RFT][PATCH " Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-09-19 22:46 ` Lukas Wunner
2016-09-23 13:03 ` Lukas Wunner
2016-09-23 13:42 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-09-26 16:51 ` Lukas Wunner
2016-09-27 12:16 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-09-27 8:54 ` Lukas Wunner
2016-09-27 11:52 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-09-28 10:43 ` Lukas Wunner
2016-09-28 11:31 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-09-29 10:36 ` Lukas Wunner
2016-09-15 22:06 ` [RFC/RFT][PATCH v3 3/5] PM / sleep: Make async suspend/resume of devices use device links Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-09-15 22:07 ` [RFC/RFT][PATCH v3 4/5] PM / runtime: Use " Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-09-15 22:07 ` [RFC/RFT][PATCH v3 5/5] PM / runtime: Optimize the use of " Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-09-16 7:25 ` [RFC/RFT][PATCH v3 0/5] Functional dependencies between devices Marek Szyprowski
2016-09-16 7:57 ` Marek Szyprowski
2016-09-16 12:04 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-09-27 12:34 ` Lukas Wunner
2016-09-28 0:33 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-09-28 11:42 ` Lukas Wunner
2016-09-29 0:51 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-11-15 18:50 ` Lukas Wunner
2016-09-29 0:24 ` [PATCH v4 " Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-09-29 0:25 ` [Resend][PATCH v4 1/5] driver core: Add a wrapper around __device_release_driver() Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-09-29 0:38 ` [PATCH v4 2/5] driver core: Functional dependencies tracking support Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-10-01 7:43 ` Lukas Wunner
2016-10-01 23:32 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-09-29 0:38 ` [Resend][PATCH v4 3/5] PM / sleep: Make async suspend/resume of devices use device links Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-09-29 0:40 ` [PATCH v4 4/5] PM / runtime: Use " Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-09-29 0:41 ` [Rebase][PATCH v4 5/5] PM / runtime: Optimize the use of " Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-09-29 6:58 ` [PATCH v4 0/5] Functional dependencies between devices Marek Szyprowski
2016-09-29 12:27 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-10-02 23:13 ` Lukas Wunner
2016-10-10 12:36 ` [PATCH v5 " Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-10-10 12:37 ` [Resend][PATCH v5 1/5] driver core: Add a wrapper around __device_release_driver() Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-10-10 12:51 ` [PATCH v5 2/5] driver core: Functional dependencies tracking support Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-10-26 11:19 ` Lukas Wunner
2016-10-27 15:25 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2016-10-28 9:57 ` Lukas Wunner
2016-11-07 21:22 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-11-08 6:45 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2016-11-08 19:21 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-11-08 19:43 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2016-11-08 20:58 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-11-09 6:45 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2016-11-09 9:36 ` Andrzej Hajda
2016-11-09 9:41 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman [this message]
2016-11-13 16:58 ` Lukas Wunner
2016-11-10 0:43 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-11-10 0:59 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-11-10 7:14 ` Laurent Pinchart
2016-11-10 22:04 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-11-10 22:40 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2016-11-11 0:08 ` Laurent Pinchart
2016-11-13 10:59 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2016-11-14 14:50 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-11-14 8:15 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2016-11-10 8:46 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2016-11-10 22:12 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-10-27 15:32 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2016-11-07 21:39 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-11-10 1:07 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-11-10 7:05 ` Laurent Pinchart
2016-11-10 23:09 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-11-13 17:34 ` Lukas Wunner
2016-11-14 13:48 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-11-14 15:48 ` Lukas Wunner
2016-11-14 16:00 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-10-10 12:54 ` [PATCH v5 3/5] PM / sleep: Make async suspend/resume of devices use device links Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-10-10 12:56 ` [PATCH v5 4/5] PM / runtime: Use " Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-10-20 13:17 ` [Update][PATCH " Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-10-10 12:57 ` [Rebase][PATCH v5 5/5] PM / runtime: Optimize the use of " Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-10-18 10:46 ` [PATCH v5 0/5] Functional dependencies between devices Marek Szyprowski
2016-10-19 11:57 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-10-20 10:21 ` Marek Szyprowski
2016-10-20 12:54 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-10-27 15:32 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
[not found] ` <5811F0CF.5000204@huawei.com>
2016-10-28 9:39 ` Lukas Wunner
2016-11-02 20:55 ` Hanjun Guo
2016-10-30 16:22 ` [PATCH v6 " Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-10-30 16:28 ` [Resend][PATCH v6 3/5] PM / sleep: Make async suspend/resume of devices use device links Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-10-30 16:29 ` [Resend][PATCH v6 1/5] driver core: Add a wrapper around __device_release_driver() Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-10-30 16:32 ` [PATCH v6 2/5] driver core: Functional dependencies tracking support Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-10-30 16:32 ` [PATCH v6 4/5] PM / runtime: Use device links Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-12-18 14:01 ` Lukas Wunner
2016-12-18 15:53 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-12-18 16:37 ` Lukas Wunner
2016-12-19 12:38 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-10-30 16:32 ` [Resend][PATCH v6 5/5] PM / runtime: Optimize the use of " Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-10-30 16:40 ` [PATCH v6 0/5] Functional dependencies between devices Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-10-31 17:47 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2016-11-01 3:50 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-11-02 7:58 ` Marek Szyprowski
2016-11-05 12:10 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2016-11-07 21:15 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-11-08 6:36 ` Marek Szyprowski
2016-11-08 20:14 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
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