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From: Nicholas Piggin <npiggin@gmail.com>
To: Michal Marek <mmarek@suse.com>
Cc: Ben Hutchings <ben@decadent.org.uk>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Adam Borowski <kilobyte@angband.pl>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Linux Kbuild mailing list <linux-kbuild@vger.kernel.org>,
	Debian kernel maintainers <debian-kernel@lists.debian.org>,
	"linux-arch@vger.kernel.org" <linux-arch@vger.kernel.org>,
	Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Dodji Seketeli <dodji@seketeli.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] x86/kbuild: enable modversions for symbols exported from asm
Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2016 13:33:08 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20161209133308.0acbb57a@roar.ozlabs.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <6e8cf20b-2d2f-ba1f-e02c-c757d5a25db7@suse.com>

On Thu, 1 Dec 2016 17:12:41 +0100
Michal Marek <mmarek@suse.com> wrote:

> On 2016-12-01 04:39, Nicholas Piggin wrote:
> > On Thu, 01 Dec 2016 02:35:54 +0000
> > Ben Hutchings <ben@decadent.org.uk> wrote:  
> >> As I understand it, genksyms incorporates the definitions of a
> >> function's parameter and return types - not just their names - and all
> >> the types they refer to, recursively.  So a structure size change
> >> should change the version of all functions where the function and its
> >> caller pass that structure between them, however indirectly.  It finds
> >> such indirect ABI breakage for me fairly regularly, though of course I
> >> don't know that it finds everything.  
> > 
> > It is only the type name.
> > 
> > Not only that but even if you did extend it further to structure type
> > arrangement then you still have to deal with other structures followed
> > via pointers. Or (rarer but not unheard of):
> > 
> > - changes to structures without changes of the types of their members
> > - changes to arguments without changes of their type  
> 
> This is already covered by genksyms. Try make V=1 with
> CONFIG_MODVERSIONS=y and add the -D option to one of the genksyms
> command. I wanted to paste the expanded signature for
> register_filesystem() as an example, but vger would probably drop the
> mail for being too big :).

Well I simply tested the outcome. If you have:

struct blah {
  int x;
};
int foo(struct blah *blah)
{
  return blah->x;
}
EXPORT(foo);

$ nm vmlinux | grep __crc_foo
00000000a0cf13a0 A __crc_foo

Now change to

struct blah {
  int y;
  int x;
};

$ nm vmlinux | grep __crc_foo
00000000a0cf13a0 A __crc_foo

It just doesn't catch these things. Honestly, stable ABI distros *have*
to review all patches to ensure the ABI is unchanged. Some tools could
help significantly, but for that, the debug info ABI checking tools that
have been mentioned in this thread are far better tool for this job than
modversions.

Thanks,
Nick

  parent reply	other threads:[~2016-12-09  3:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 113+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <a73aec83-ddad-2bdf-e612-178c9936a16f@manjaro.org>
     [not found] ` <20161102004639.6870806d@roar.ozlabs.ibm.com>
2016-11-23 20:08   ` BUG: 4.9-rc6 Still "no symbol version" on boot Philip Müller
2016-11-23 20:14     ` Robert LeBlanc
2016-11-23 20:27       ` Philip Müller
2016-11-23 20:53     ` Adam Borowski
2016-11-23 21:01       ` Robert LeBlanc
2016-11-23 21:02       ` [PATCH] x86/kbuild: enable modversions for symbols exported from asm Adam Borowski
2016-11-23 23:10         ` Philip Müller
2016-11-24  4:40         ` Ingo Molnar
2016-11-24  5:20           ` Nicholas Piggin
2016-11-24  6:00             ` Ingo Molnar
2016-11-24  7:20               ` Nicholas Piggin
2016-11-24  7:36                 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2016-11-24  7:53                   ` Nicholas Piggin
2016-11-24  9:32                     ` Michal Marek
2016-11-24 10:03                       ` Nicholas Piggin
2016-11-24 10:51                         ` Michal Marek
2016-11-24  9:38                     ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-11-24 10:01                       ` Nicholas Piggin
2016-11-24  9:56                     ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2016-11-24 10:31                       ` Nicholas Piggin
2016-11-24 15:24                         ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2016-11-25  0:40                           ` Nicholas Piggin
2016-11-25 18:00                             ` Linus Torvalds
2016-11-26  0:37                               ` Nicholas Piggin
2016-11-29  1:15                               ` Ben Hutchings
2016-11-29  2:31                                 ` Nicholas Piggin
2016-11-29  9:14                                   ` Michal Marek
2016-11-29  4:08                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2016-11-29 13:19                                   ` Adam Borowski
2016-11-29 13:29                                     ` Ingo Molnar
2016-11-29 14:24                                       ` Adam Borowski
2016-11-29 13:51                                     ` Adam Borowski
     [not found]                                       ` <CA+55aFyZiB4YkwvqzrXO=HD8bcnc2xHkAYrek2QHVnhVvAi3Fw@mail.gmail.com>
2016-11-29 16:03                                         ` Michal Marek
2016-11-29 16:17                                           ` Linus Torvalds
2016-11-29 19:57                                             ` Ben Hutchings
2016-11-29 20:35                                               ` Linus Torvalds
2016-11-30 18:18                                                 ` Nicholas Piggin
2016-11-30 18:40                                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2016-11-30 21:33                                                     ` Ben Hutchings
2016-12-01  1:55                                                       ` Nicholas Piggin
2016-12-01  2:35                                                         ` Ben Hutchings
2016-12-01  3:39                                                           ` Nicholas Piggin
2016-12-01 16:12                                                             ` Michal Marek
2016-12-02 14:36                                                               ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2016-12-09  3:33                                                               ` Nicholas Piggin [this message]
2016-12-09 15:21                                                                 ` Ian Campbell
2016-12-09 16:15                                                                   ` Nicholas Piggin
2016-12-09 22:46                                                                     ` Dodji Seketeli
2016-12-10 12:41                                                                       ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2016-12-12  3:50                                                                         ` Nicholas Piggin
2016-12-12  9:08                                                                         ` Ian Campbell
2016-12-14 17:59                                                                         ` Don Zickus
2016-12-13  1:07                                                                       ` Stanislav Kozina
2016-12-13 22:51                                                                       ` Michal Marek
2016-12-14  8:58                                                                         ` Dodji Seketeli
2016-12-14  9:15                                                                           ` Michal Marek
2016-12-14  9:36                                                                             ` Dodji Seketeli
2016-12-14  9:44                                                                               ` Michal Marek
2016-12-14 10:02                                                                                 ` Dodji Seketeli
2016-12-14 10:15                                                                                   ` Michal Marek
2016-12-14  9:56                                                                               ` Dodji Seketeli
2016-12-14  9:37                                                                             ` Michal Marek
2016-12-01  4:13                                                     ` Don Zickus
2016-12-01  4:32                                                       ` Nicholas Piggin
2016-12-01 15:20                                                         ` Don Zickus
2016-12-01 15:26                                                           ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-12-01 15:40                                                             ` Don Zickus
2016-12-01 16:06                                                               ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2016-12-01 18:42                                                                 ` Don Zickus
2016-12-09  3:50                                                           ` Nicholas Piggin
2016-12-09  7:55                                                             ` Stanislav Kozina
2016-12-09  8:14                                                               ` Nicholas Piggin
2016-12-09 14:36                                                                 ` Stanislav Kozina
2016-12-09 15:56                                                                   ` Nicholas Piggin
2016-12-09 16:03                                                                     ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2016-12-12  9:48                                                                       ` Stanislav Kozina
2016-12-13  7:25                                                                         ` Nicholas Piggin
2016-12-14 14:04                                                                       ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2016-12-15  2:06                                                                         ` Nicholas Piggin
2016-12-15 11:19                                                                           ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2016-12-15 12:03                                                                             ` Nicholas Piggin
2016-12-15 13:15                                                                               ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2016-12-15 14:15                                                                                 ` Nicholas Piggin
2016-12-15 15:17                                                                                   ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2016-12-15 13:35                                                                               ` Stanislav Kozina
2016-12-09 16:16                                                             ` Don Zickus
2016-12-01 10:48                                                       ` Stanislav Kozina
2016-12-01 11:09                                                         ` Nicholas Piggin
2016-12-01 11:33                                                           ` Stanislav Kozina
2016-12-01 12:39                                                             ` Nicholas Piggin
2016-12-01 15:19                                                           ` Dodji Seketeli
2016-12-01 16:14                                                       ` Michal Marek
2016-11-29 17:05                                         ` Adam Borowski
2016-11-29 17:10                                           ` Linus Torvalds
2016-11-29 17:14                                             ` Linus Torvalds
2016-12-01 13:58                                               ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-12-01 16:21                                                 ` Michal Marek
2016-12-01 18:26                                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2016-12-02 10:55                                                   ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-12-02 12:40                                                     ` [RFC, PATCH, v3.9] default exported asm symbols to zero Arnd Bergmann
2016-12-02 12:59                                                       ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2016-12-02 14:51                                                         ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-12-02 15:35                                                       ` Adam Borowski
2016-12-03  4:36                                                       ` Ben Hutchings
2016-12-03 10:43                                                         ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-12-02 17:04                                                     ` [PATCH] x86/kbuild: enable modversions for symbols exported from asm Linus Torvalds
2016-12-04  7:44                                                     ` Alan Modra
2016-12-04 20:44                                                       ` Linus Torvalds
2016-11-29 21:23                                             ` Michal Marek
2016-11-24  9:25           ` Michal Marek
2016-11-24 11:42         ` Regression: " Kalle Valo
2016-11-23 23:07       ` BUG: 4.9-rc6 Still "no symbol version" on boot Philip Müller
2016-11-28 17:10         ` Robert LeBlanc

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