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From: "Theodore Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu>
To: "Luis R. Rodriguez" <mcgrof@kernel.org>
Cc: Alan Cox <alan@linux.intel.com>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	AKASHI Takahiro <takahiro.akashi@linaro.org>,
	Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	torvalds@linux.intel.com, Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	ciaran.farrell@suse.com, christopher.denicolo@suse.com,
	fontana@sharpeleven.org, copyleft-next@lists.fedorahosted.org,
	One Thousand Gnomes <gnomes@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	Paul Bolle <pebolle@tiscali.nl>, Peter Anvin <hpa@zytor.com>,
	Joe Perches <joe@perches.com>
Subject: Re: Kernel modules under new copyleft licence : (was Re: [PATCH v2] module.h: add copyleft-next >= 0.3.1 as GPL compatible)
Date: Wed, 17 May 2017 12:55:02 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170517165502.b6jqdcmkgz6iyau2@thunk.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170516232702.GL17314@wotan.suse.de>

On Wed, May 17, 2017 at 01:27:02AM +0200, Luis R. Rodriguez wrote:
> 
> I have done the work though, however I can understand this might mean others
> down the chain might need to burn some ink on this. Even if our position is:
> 
> "we rather avoid any attorneys burning any ink and we prefer to just always
> require this 'dual or' language even for licenses which corporate attorneys
> have vetted as compatible"
> 
> Wouldn't that still require a bit of ink?

What ink?  As far as the Kernel is concerned, it's dual-licensed GPLv2
and copyleft-next.  So for all Kernel users there isn't any lawyer ink
at all.

The lawyer ink comes from contributors being willing to let their code
contributions being dual-licensed with GPL2 plus a potentially
unfamiliar, new copyright license.  But that's overhead that
contributors would have to deal with in either case.  In fact, if you
try to go single-license copyleft-next, the contributors' corporate
lawyer will need to figure out the GPLv2 compatibility issue, so it's
*more* overhead with the proposed single-copyright license approach.

I'm not sure I understand what you believe to be the benefit of having
kernel modules solely licensed under copyleft-next and relying on
lawyers to say, "no really, it's GPLv2 compatible"?  Could you say
more about that?

	   	    	    	       - Ted

  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-05-17 16:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-06-14 18:35 [PATCH] module.h: add copyleft-next >= 0.3.1 as GPL compatible Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-06-29 19:05 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-06-29 19:46   ` Greg KH
2016-06-29 20:03     ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-06-29 20:13     ` H. Peter Anvin
2016-06-29 21:43   ` Paul Bolle
2016-06-29 22:01     ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-06-29 22:45       ` Paul Bolle
2016-06-29 23:01         ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-06-29 23:22           ` Paul Bolle
2016-06-29 23:29             ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-06-29 20:49 ` Paul Bolle
2016-06-30 22:50   ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-06-30 22:53 ` [PATCH v2] " Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-07-01 15:42   ` Greg KH
2016-07-18  3:26     ` Rusty Russell
2016-07-19 22:38       ` Greg KH
2016-07-19 23:29         ` Richard Fontana
2016-07-21  6:04         ` Rusty Russell
2016-07-22  0:07         ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-08-09 20:04           ` Kernel modules under new copyleft licence : (was Re: [PATCH v2] module.h: add copyleft-next >= 0.3.1 as GPL compatible) Alan Cox
2016-08-09 20:14             ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-08-10  1:25               ` [copyleft-next] " Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-08-10  2:58               ` Linus Torvalds
2017-05-11 18:02                 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-05-15 15:18                   ` Alan Cox
2017-05-16 23:27                     ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-05-17 13:36                       ` Alan Cox
2017-05-17 16:55                       ` Theodore Ts'o [this message]
2017-05-17 17:41                         ` [copyleft-next] " Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-05-18 22:12                           ` Theodore Ts'o
2017-05-18 23:04                             ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-05-18 23:08                               ` David Lang
2017-05-18 23:29                                 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-05-19 15:15                                   ` Theodore Ts'o
2017-05-19 11:31                               ` Alan Cox
2017-05-19 15:09                                 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-05-19 17:59                                   ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-05-19 18:04                                     ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-05-19 22:55                                       ` Alan Cox
2017-05-25 17:05                                       ` Pavel Machek
2017-05-25 17:31                                         ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2017-05-25 20:14                                           ` Pavel Machek
2017-05-25 22:54                                             ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-08-09 21:46             ` Richard Fontana

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