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From: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
To: Yang Shi <yang.shi@linux.alibaba.com>
Cc: mingo@kernel.org, adobriyan@gmail.com, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/4 v2] Define killable version for access_remote_vm() and use it in fs/proc
Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2018 13:41:39 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180306134139.375e15abab173329962f7d5a@linux-foundation.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <b576e32b-9c47-ee67-a576-b5a0c05c2864@linux.alibaba.com>

On Tue, 6 Mar 2018 13:17:37 -0800 Yang Shi <yang.shi@linux.alibaba.com> wrote:

> 
> 
> It just mitigates the hung task warning, can't resolve the mmap_sem 
> scalability issue. Furthermore, waiting on pure uninterruptible state 
> for reading /proc sounds unnecessary. It doesn't wait for I/O completion.

OK.

> >
> > Where the heck are we holding mmap_sem for so long?  Can that be fixed?
> 
> The mmap_sem is held for unmapping a large map which has every single 
> page mapped. This is not a issue in real production code. Just found it 
> by running vm-scalability on a machine with ~600GB memory.
> 
> AFAIK, I don't see any easy fix for the mmap_sem scalability issue. I 
> saw range locking patches (https://lwn.net/Articles/723648/) were 
> floating around. But, it may not help too much on the case that a large 
> map with every single page mapped.

Well it sounds fairly simple to mitigate?  Simplistically: don't unmap
600G in a single hit; do it 1G at a time, dropping mmap_sem each time. 
A smarter version might only come up for air if there are mmap_sem
waiters and if it has already done some work.  I don't think we have
any particular atomicity requirements when unmapping?

  reply	other threads:[~2018-03-06 21:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-02-27  0:25 [RFC PATCH 0/4 v2] Define killable version for access_remote_vm() and use it in fs/proc Yang Shi
2018-02-27  0:25 ` [PATCH 1/4 v2] mm: add access_remote_vm_killable APIs Yang Shi
2018-02-27  0:25 ` [PATCH 2/4 v2] fs: proc: use down_read_killable in proc_pid_cmdline_read() Yang Shi
2018-02-27  0:25 ` [PATCH 3/4 v2] fs: proc: use down_read_killable() in environ_read() Yang Shi
2018-02-27  7:15   ` Alexey Dobriyan
2018-02-27 16:59     ` Yang Shi
2018-02-27  0:25 ` [PATCH 4/4 v2] mm: use access_remote_vm() in get_cmdline() Yang Shi
2018-02-27  1:02 ` [RFC PATCH 0/4 v2] Define killable version for access_remote_vm() and use it in fs/proc David Rientjes
2018-02-27  1:25   ` Yang Shi
2018-02-27  1:47     ` David Rientjes
2018-03-01  0:17       ` Yang Shi
2018-03-06 18:45 ` Yang Shi
2018-03-06 20:45 ` Andrew Morton
2018-03-06 21:17   ` Yang Shi
2018-03-06 21:41     ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2018-03-07  0:47       ` Yang Shi

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