From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.3 required=3.0 tests=HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,SPF_PASS,USER_AGENT_MUTT autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34524C43334 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2018 13:53:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [209.132.180.67]) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D56E32077C for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2018 13:53:38 +0000 (UTC) DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.3.2 mail.kernel.org D56E32077C Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=fieldses.org Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; spf=none smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1727808AbeIESXz (ORCPT ); Wed, 5 Sep 2018 14:23:55 -0400 Received: from fieldses.org ([173.255.197.46]:58440 "EHLO fieldses.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1726071AbeIESXz (ORCPT ); Wed, 5 Sep 2018 14:23:55 -0400 Received: by fieldses.org (Postfix, from userid 2815) id 33CBC1EF5; Wed, 5 Sep 2018 09:53:36 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2018 09:53:36 -0400 From: "J. Bruce Fields" To: Jeff Layton Cc: =?utf-8?B?54Sm5pmT5Yas?= , R.E.Wolff@bitwizard.nl, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: POSIX violation by writeback error Message-ID: <20180905135336.GB22395@fieldses.org> References: <82ffc434137c2ca47a8edefbe7007f5cbecd1cca.camel@redhat.com> <20180904161203.GD17478@fieldses.org> <20180904162348.GN17123@BitWizard.nl> <20180904185411.GA22166@fieldses.org> <09ba078797a1327713e5c2d3111641246451c06e.camel@redhat.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <09ba078797a1327713e5c2d3111641246451c06e.camel@redhat.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Wed, Sep 05, 2018 at 06:55:15AM -0400, Jeff Layton wrote: > There is no requirement for a filesystem to flush data on close(). In > fact, most local filesystems do not. NFS does, but that's because it has > to in order to provide close-to-open cache consistency semantics. And these days even NFS can delay writeback till after close thanks to write delegations. --b.