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From: Tycho Andersen <tycho@tycho.ws>
To: Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>
Cc: Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux Containers <containers@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
	Linux API <linux-api@vger.kernel.org>,
	Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>,
	"Eric W . Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
	"Serge E . Hallyn" <serge@hallyn.com>,
	Christian Brauner <christian.brauner@ubuntu.com>,
	Tyler Hicks <tyhicks@canonical.com>,
	Akihiro Suda <suda.akihiro@lab.ntt.co.jp>,
	Jann Horn <jannh@google.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 4/5] seccomp: add support for passing fds via USER_NOTIF
Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2018 03:25:44 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180913092544.GC4672@cisco> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALCETrWZmN4FeCSwemfMeayupBmQ-NqpVWQuqSU34CLvzdx8gw@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 04:52:38PM -0700, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 6, 2018 at 8:28 AM, Tycho Andersen <tycho@tycho.ws> wrote:
> > The idea here is that the userspace handler should be able to pass an fd
> > back to the trapped task, for example so it can be returned from socket().
> >
> > I've proposed one API here, but I'm open to other options. In particular,
> > this only lets you return an fd from a syscall, which may not be enough in
> > all cases. For example, if an fd is written to an output parameter instead
> > of returned, the current API can't handle this. Another case is that
> > netlink takes as input fds sometimes (IFLA_NET_NS_FD, e.g.). If netlink
> > ever decides to install an fd and output it, we wouldn't be able to handle
> > this either.
> 
> An alternative could be to have an API (an ioctl on the listener,
> perhaps) that just copies an fd into the tracee.  There would be the
> obvious set of options: do we replace an existing fd or allocate a new
> one, and is it CLOEXEC.  Then the tracer could add an fd and then
> return it just like it's a regular number.
> 
> I feel like this would be more flexible and conceptually simpler, but
> maybe a little slower for the common cases.  What do you think?

Yes, I like this. It also future (or current-) proofs the API against
instances where we return an FD in a structure and not via the return
code of the syscall.

Tycho

  reply	other threads:[~2018-09-13  9:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-09-06 15:28 [PATCH v6 0/5] seccomp trap to userspace Tycho Andersen
2018-09-06 15:28 ` [PATCH v6 1/5] seccomp: add a return code to " Tycho Andersen
2018-09-06 22:15   ` Tyler Hicks
2018-09-07 15:45     ` Tycho Andersen
2018-09-08 20:35     ` Tycho Andersen
2018-09-06 15:28 ` [PATCH v6 2/5] seccomp: make get_nth_filter available outside of CHECKPOINT_RESTORE Tycho Andersen
2018-09-11 10:25   ` kbuild test robot
2018-09-06 15:28 ` [PATCH v6 3/5] seccomp: add a way to get a listener fd from ptrace Tycho Andersen
2018-09-06 15:45   ` Jann Horn
2018-09-06 15:50     ` Tycho Andersen
2018-09-13  0:00   ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-09-13  9:24     ` Tycho Andersen
2018-10-17  7:25     ` Michael Tirado
2018-10-17 15:00       ` Tycho Andersen
     [not found]         ` <CAMkWEXM1c7AGTH=tpgoHtPnFFY-V+05nGOU90Sa1E3EPY9OhKQ@mail.gmail.com>
2018-10-17 18:15           ` Michael Tirado
2018-10-21 16:00             ` Tycho Andersen
2018-10-17 18:31       ` Kees Cook
2018-09-06 15:28 ` [PATCH v6 4/5] seccomp: add support for passing fds via USER_NOTIF Tycho Andersen
2018-09-06 16:15   ` Jann Horn
2018-09-06 16:22     ` Tycho Andersen
2018-09-06 18:30       ` Tycho Andersen
2018-09-10 17:00         ` Jann Horn
2018-09-11 20:29           ` Tycho Andersen
2018-09-12 23:52   ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-09-13  9:25     ` Tycho Andersen [this message]
2018-09-13  9:42     ` Aleksa Sarai
2018-09-19  9:55     ` Tycho Andersen
2018-09-19 14:19       ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-09-19 14:38         ` Tycho Andersen
2018-09-19 19:58           ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-09-20 23:42             ` Tycho Andersen
2018-09-21  2:18               ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-09-21 13:39                 ` Tycho Andersen
2018-09-21 18:27                   ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-09-21 22:03                     ` Tycho Andersen
2018-09-21 20:46                   ` Jann Horn
2018-09-25 12:53                 ` Tycho Andersen
2018-09-06 15:28 ` [PATCH v6 5/5] samples: add an example of seccomp user trap Tycho Andersen

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