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From: Ming Lei <ming.lei@redhat.com>
To: Vitaly Kuznetsov <vkuznets@redhat.com>
Cc: Ming Lei <tom.leiming@gmail.com>,
	linux-block <linux-block@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	Linux FS Devel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"open list:XFS FILESYSTEM" <linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org>,
	Dave Chinner <dchinner@redhat.com>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>, Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>
Subject: Re: block: DMA alignment of IO buffer allocated from slab
Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2018 18:02:57 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180919100256.GD23172@ming.t460p> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <877ejh3jv0.fsf@vitty.brq.redhat.com>

Hi Vitaly,

On Wed, Sep 19, 2018 at 11:41:07AM +0200, Vitaly Kuznetsov wrote:
> Ming Lei <tom.leiming@gmail.com> writes:
> 
> > Hi Guys,
> >
> > Some storage controllers have DMA alignment limit, which is often set via
> > blk_queue_dma_alignment(), such as 512-byte alignment for IO buffer.
> 
> While mostly drivers use 512-byte alignment it is not a rule of thumb,
> 'git grep' tell me we have:
> ide-cd.c with 32-byte alignment
> ps3disk.c and rsxx/dev.c with variable alignment.
> 
> What if our block configuration consists of several devices (in raid
> array, for example) with different requirements, e.g. one requiring
> 512-byte alignment and the other requiring 256?

512-byte alignment is also 256-byte aligned, and the sector size is 512 byte.

> 
> >
> > Block layer now only checks if this limit is respected for buffer of
> > pass-through request,
> > see blk_rq_map_user_iov(), bio_map_user_iov().
> >
> > The userspace buffer for direct IO is checked in dio path, see
> > do_blockdev_direct_IO().
> > IO buffer from page cache should be fine wrt. this limit too.
> >
> > However, some file systems, such as XFS, may allocate single sector IO buffer
> > via slab. Usually I guess kmalloc-512 should be fine to return
> > 512-aligned buffer.
> > But once KASAN or other slab debug options are enabled, looks this
> > isn't true any
> > more, kmalloc-512 may not return 512-aligned buffer. Then data corruption
> > can be observed because the IO buffer from fs layer doesn't respect the DMA
> > alignment limit any more.
> >
> > Follows several related questions:
> >
> > 1) does kmalloc-N slab guarantee to return N-byte aligned buffer?  If
> > yes, is it a stable rule?
> >
> > 2) If it is a rule for kmalloc-N slab to return N-byte aligned buffer,
> > seems KASAN violates this
> > rule?
> 
> (as I was kinda involved in debugging): the issue was observed with SLUB
> allocator KASAN is not to blame, everything wich requires aditional
> metadata space will break this, see e.g. calculate_sizes() in slub.c

Buffer allocated via kmalloc() should be aligned with L1 HW cache size
at least.

I have raised the question: does kmalloc-512 slab guarantee to return
512-byte aligned buffer, let's see what the answer is from MM guys,:-) 

From the Red Hat BZ, looks I understand this issue is only triggered when
KASAN is enabled, or you have figured out how to reproduce it without
KASAN involved?

> 
> >
> > 3) If slab can't guarantee to return 512-aligned buffer, how to fix
> > this data corruption issue?
> 
> I'm no expert in block layer but in case of complex block device
> configurations when bio submitter can't know all the requirements I see
> no other choice than bouncing.

I guess that might be the last straw, given the current way without
bouncing works for decades, and seems no one complains before.

Thanks,
Ming

  reply	other threads:[~2018-09-19 10:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-09-19  9:15 block: DMA alignment of IO buffer allocated from slab Ming Lei
2018-09-19  9:41 ` Vitaly Kuznetsov
2018-09-19 10:02   ` Ming Lei [this message]
2018-09-19 11:15     ` Vitaly Kuznetsov
2018-09-20  1:28       ` Ming Lei
2018-09-20  3:59         ` Yang Shi
2018-09-20  6:32         ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-09-20  6:31 ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-09-21 13:04   ` Vitaly Kuznetsov
2018-09-21 13:05     ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-09-21 15:00       ` Jens Axboe
2018-09-24 16:06       ` Christopher Lameter
2018-09-24 17:49         ` Jens Axboe
2018-09-24 18:00           ` Christopher Lameter
2018-09-24 18:09             ` Jens Axboe
2018-09-25  7:49               ` Dave Chinner
2018-09-25 15:44                 ` Jens Axboe
2018-09-25 21:04                 ` Matthew Wilcox
2018-09-23 22:42     ` Ming Lei
2018-09-24  9:46       ` Andrey Ryabinin
2018-09-24 14:19         ` Bart Van Assche
2018-09-24 14:43           ` Andrey Ryabinin
2018-09-24 15:08             ` Bart Van Assche
2018-09-24 15:52               ` Andrey Ryabinin
2018-09-24 15:58                 ` Bart Van Assche
2018-09-24 16:07                   ` Andrey Ryabinin
2018-09-24 16:19                     ` Bart Van Assche
2018-09-24 16:47                       ` Christopher Lameter
2018-09-24 18:57                       ` Matthew Wilcox
2018-09-24 19:56                         ` Bart Van Assche
2018-09-24 20:41                           ` Matthew Wilcox
2018-09-24 20:54                             ` Bart Van Assche
2018-09-24 21:09                               ` Matthew Wilcox
2018-09-25  0:16                         ` Ming Lei
2018-09-25  3:28                           ` Matthew Wilcox
2018-09-25  4:10                             ` Bart Van Assche
2018-09-25  4:44                               ` Matthew Wilcox
2018-09-25  6:55                                 ` Ming Lei
2018-09-24 15:17           ` Christopher Lameter
2018-09-25  0:20             ` Ming Lei
2018-09-20 14:07 ` Bart Van Assche
2018-09-21  1:56 ` Dave Chinner
2018-09-21  7:08   ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-09-21  7:25     ` Ming Lei
2018-09-21 14:59       ` Jens Axboe

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