From: lkcl@lkcl.net
To: martin@lichtvoll.de
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, torvalds@linux-foundation.org
Subject: Re: Re: Linux 4.19-rc4 released, an apology, and a maintainership note
Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2018 13:09:09 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180930120909.30469-1-lkcl@lkcl.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2936237.GcMzexieOU@merkaba>
> That written: Quite some of the rude mails that contained swearwords I
> read from you have been about code, not persons. I think this is an
> important distinction. I do not have much of an issue with swearing at
> code :), especially when it is in some humorous way.
absolutely, and this is one thing that a lot of people are, sadly,
trained pretty much from birth to be incapable of understanding:
namely the difference between criticism of the PERSON and criticism
of the ACTION.
(1) "YOU are bad! GO STAND IN THE NAUGHTY CORNER!"
(2) "That was a BAD thing to do!"
(3) "That hurt my feelings that you did that"
the first is the way that poorly-trained parents and kindergarten
teachers talk to children.
the second is... only marginally better, but it's a start
the third is how UNICEF trains teachers to treat children as human beings.
> Code quality indeed is important.
> As are human interactions.
absolutely. it's not about the code, it's always, *always* about people.
we just happen to be writing code, but ultimately we are doing so in the
service of other PEOPLE.
l.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-09-30 12:09 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-09-16 19:22 Linux 4.19-rc4 released, an apology, and a maintainership note Linus Torvalds
2018-09-16 21:42 ` [...] " Adam Borowski
2018-09-16 23:59 ` Moritz Obermeier
2018-09-17 0:18 ` Linux 4.19-rc4 released, " Rene Herman
2018-09-17 0:20 ` [...] " Andy Isaacson
2018-09-17 0:23 ` Linux 4.19-rc4 released, " Rene Herman
2018-09-17 6:57 ` opal hart
2018-09-17 7:57 ` […] " Martin Steigerwald
2018-09-17 8:53 ` Martin Steigerwald
2018-09-30 12:09 ` lkcl [this message]
2018-09-30 14:07 ` Linux 4.19-rc4 released, " Martin Steigerwald
2018-09-30 16:27 ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2018-09-17 12:58 ` Guenter Roeck
2018-09-17 17:09 ` Joe Perches
2018-09-17 21:09 ` Michael Woods
2018-09-18 1:30 ` Pavel Snajdr
2018-09-21 22:13 ` Michael Woods
2018-10-04 14:57 ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-10-08 15:29 ` Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult
2018-10-08 13:54 ` Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult
2018-10-08 16:36 ` Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult
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