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From: Quentin Perret <quentin.perret@arm.com>
To: Andrea Parri <andrea.parri@amarulasolutions.com>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	rjw@rjwysocki.net, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-pm@vger.kernel.org, gregkh@linuxfoundation.org,
	mingo@redhat.com, dietmar.eggemann@arm.com,
	morten.rasmussen@arm.com, chris.redpath@arm.com,
	patrick.bellasi@arm.com, valentin.schneider@arm.com,
	vincent.guittot@linaro.org, thara.gopinath@linaro.org,
	viresh.kumar@linaro.org, tkjos@google.com,
	joel@joelfernandes.org, smuckle@google.com,
	adharmap@codeaurora.org, skannan@codeaurora.org,
	pkondeti@codeaurora.org, juri.lelli@redhat.com,
	edubezval@gmail.com, srinivas.pandruvada@linux.intel.com,
	currojerez@riseup.net, javi.merino@kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v7 03/14] PM: Introduce an Energy Model management framework
Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2018 08:48:23 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20181003074822.bwlhiowr4upjwunm@queper01-lin> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20181002191217.GA4160@andrea>

Hi Andrea,

On Tuesday 02 Oct 2018 at 21:12:17 (+0200), Andrea Parri wrote:
> An example might help clarify this: here is a scenario I can _imagine,
> based on your description.
> 
> CPU0 (em_register_perf_domain())	CPU1 (reader)
> 
> [...]					my_pd = READ_ONCE(per_cpu(em_data, 1)); /* em_cpu_get() */
> pd->table = table			if (my_pd)
> WRITE_ONCE(per_cpu(em_data, 1), pd);		my_table = my_pd->table; /* process, dereference, ... my_table */
> 
> In this scenario, we'd like CPU1 to see CPU0's store to ->table (as well
> as the stores to table[]) _if CPU1 sees CPU0's store to em_data (that is,
> if my_pd != NULL).
> 
> This guarantee does not hold with the WRITE_ONCE(), because CPU0 could
> propagate the store to ->table and the store to em_data out-of-order.

Ah, this is a very good point ... It's fine if a reader sees em_data
half way through being updated, but it is NOT fine at all if a reader
gets a pointer onto a half-baked em_perf_domain.

So I agree, there is a problem here.

(I also realize now that I totally misunderstood Peter's messages before
which were basically pointing out this issue :/ ...)

> The smp_store_release(), together with the address dependency headed by
> the READ_ONCE(), provides this guarantee (and more...).
> 
> (Enclosing the reader into an em_pd_mutex critical section would also
> provide this guarantee, but I can imagine a few arguments for not using
> a mutex... ;-) ).

Right, using the mutex in em_cpu_get() could work too, although we
probably don't want to do that. We might very well end up using it in a
RCU critical section for example (although that's not the case with this
series, I'm just looking forward a bit).

So using smp_store_release() is the best choice here. I'll fix that up
for v8.

Thank you very much,
Quentin

  reply	other threads:[~2018-10-03  7:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-09-12  9:12 [PATCH v7 00/14] Energy Aware Scheduling Quentin Perret
2018-09-12  9:12 ` [PATCH v7 01/14] sched: Relocate arch_scale_cpu_capacity Quentin Perret
2018-09-12  9:12 ` [PATCH v7 02/14] sched/cpufreq: Prepare schedutil for Energy Aware Scheduling Quentin Perret
2018-09-12 14:56   ` Vincent Guittot
2018-09-18 21:33   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2018-09-27 12:17     ` Quentin Perret
2018-09-28  8:23       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2018-09-28  8:35         ` Quentin Perret
2018-09-28  8:35           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2018-09-12  9:12 ` [PATCH v7 03/14] PM: Introduce an Energy Model management framework Quentin Perret
2018-10-02 12:25   ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-10-02 12:54     ` Quentin Perret
2018-10-02 13:50       ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-10-02 12:30   ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-10-02 12:51     ` Quentin Perret
2018-10-02 13:48       ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-10-02 14:05         ` Quentin Perret
2018-10-02 14:29           ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-10-02 14:40             ` Quentin Perret
2018-10-02 19:12               ` Andrea Parri
2018-10-03  7:48                 ` Quentin Perret [this message]
2018-09-12  9:12 ` [PATCH v7 04/14] PM / EM: Expose the Energy Model in sysfs Quentin Perret
2018-09-12  9:13 ` [PATCH v7 05/14] sched: Introduce a sched_feat for Energy Aware Scheduling Quentin Perret
2018-10-02 12:34   ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-10-02 13:08     ` Quentin Perret
2018-10-03 16:24       ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-10-04  9:57         ` Quentin Perret
2018-09-12  9:13 ` [PATCH v7 06/14] sched/topology: Reference the Energy Model of CPUs when available Quentin Perret
2018-10-02 12:36   ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-10-02 13:16     ` Quentin Perret
2018-09-12  9:13 ` [PATCH v7 07/14] sched/topology: Lowest CPU asymmetry sched_domain level pointer Quentin Perret
2018-09-12  9:13 ` [PATCH v7 08/14] sched/topology: Disable EAS on inappropriate platforms Quentin Perret
2018-10-03 16:27   ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-10-04  9:10     ` Quentin Perret
2018-10-04  9:38       ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-10-04  9:45         ` Quentin Perret
2018-09-12  9:13 ` [PATCH v7 09/14] sched/fair: Clean-up update_sg_lb_stats parameters Quentin Perret
2018-09-12  9:13 ` [PATCH v7 10/14] sched: Add over-utilization/tipping point indicator Quentin Perret
2018-09-12  9:13 ` [PATCH v7 11/14] sched/fair: Introduce an energy estimation helper function Quentin Perret
2018-10-04  8:34   ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-10-04  9:02     ` Quentin Perret
2018-09-12  9:13 ` [PATCH v7 12/14] sched/fair: Select an energy-efficient CPU on task wake-up Quentin Perret
2018-10-04  9:44   ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-10-04 10:27     ` Quentin Perret
2018-10-04 10:41       ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-10-04 10:55         ` Quentin Perret
2018-10-04 12:18           ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-09-12  9:13 ` [PATCH v7 13/14] sched/topology: Make Energy Aware Scheduling depend on schedutil Quentin Perret
2018-10-04 10:50   ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-10-04 11:58     ` Quentin Perret
2018-09-12  9:13 ` [PATCH v7 14/14] OPTIONAL: cpufreq: dt: Register an Energy Model Quentin Perret

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