From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.3 required=3.0 tests=HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,SPF_PASS,USER_AGENT_MUTT autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D5C6C46475 for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2018 23:07:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [209.132.180.67]) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F17AA20848 for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2018 23:07:09 +0000 (UTC) DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.3.2 mail.kernel.org F17AA20848 Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=ZenIV.linux.org.uk Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; spf=none smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1727666AbeJZHlm (ORCPT ); Fri, 26 Oct 2018 03:41:42 -0400 Received: from zeniv.linux.org.uk ([195.92.253.2]:52684 "EHLO ZenIV.linux.org.uk" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1727418AbeJZHlm (ORCPT ); Fri, 26 Oct 2018 03:41:42 -0400 Received: from viro by ZenIV.linux.org.uk with local (Exim 4.90_1 #2 (Red Hat Linux)) id 1gFoiO-0003dk-Bw; Thu, 25 Oct 2018 23:06:56 +0000 Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2018 00:06:56 +0100 From: Al Viro To: esr@thyrsus.com, "Theodore Y. Ts'o" , Greg Kroah-Hartman , visionsofalice@redchan.it, linux-kernel , rms@gnu.org, bruce@perens.com, moglen@columbia.edu, bkuhn@sfconservancy.org, editor@lwn.net, NeilBrown , Laura Abbott , Linus Torvalds , ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org, Thomas Gleixner , Olof Johansson , Chris Mason , Mishi Choudhary , linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: The linux devs can rescind their license grant. Message-ID: <20181025230656.GJ32577@ZenIV.linux.org.uk> References: <20181020134908.GA32218@kroah.com> <87y3ar80ac.fsf@notabene.neil.brown.name> <185b786a2bd6e8d527dca161dc42e4f1@redchan.it> <20181025081911.GB11343@kroah.com> <20181025193901.GD26403@thyrsus.com> <20181025204718.GB25649@thunk.org> <20181025214123.GA2448@thyrsus.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20181025214123.GA2448@thyrsus.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.9.1 (2017-09-22) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Thu, Oct 25, 2018 at 05:41:23PM -0400, Eric S. Raymond wrote: > I do not have any facts with which to dispute this specific claim. > However, I do notice that a significant number of long-time > contributors have put themselves in the anti-CoC camp. I note Al Viro > as a recent example. *snort* For the record: * CoC is a piss-poor match for the structure of community * Linus had essentially tossed a live grenade into an outhouse on his way to vacation, with quite predictable results - all kinds of interesting coprophagous fauna dropping by to feed, including cartooneys of the sort I hadn't seen since NANAE days. * As idiotic gambits go, "try and revoke the license on my contributions, so that they'll have to revoke CoC" is... impressive. Sadly, my command of English has turned out to be woefully inadequate, and I can't even blame that on not being a native speaker; I'm just as incapable of producing a coherent (let alone printable) description of that cunning plan in any language, Russian included. I've tried. Really. * in case it needs to be spelled out: I am not at all interested in that kind of stunts. One of the reasons I thoroughly despise RMS and his bunch is the leverage game they tried to play with GPLv3; damned if I'm going to lower myself to their level.