From: Aleksa Sarai <cyphar@cyphar.com>
To: Lai Jiangshan <jiangshanlai+lkml@gmail.com>
Cc: Christian Brauner <christian@brauner.io>,
Florian Weimer <fweimer@redhat.com>,
Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>,
"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
"Serge E. Hallyn" <serge@hallyn.com>,
Jann Horn <jannh@google.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>,
Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
Linux FS Devel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
Linux API <linux-api@vger.kernel.org>,
Daniel Colascione <dancol@google.com>,
Tim Murray <timmurray@google.com>,
linux-man <linux-man@vger.kernel.org>,
Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] signal: add procfd_signal() syscall
Date: Tue, 25 Dec 2018 23:07:57 +1100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20181225120757.37w37lmyhxo6kekl@yavin> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJhGHyAHKm0q4FtHBgbbfaB3g4oix76vJWgjqLYoaHvKCD3gvA@mail.gmail.com>
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On 2018-12-25, Lai Jiangshan <jiangshanlai+lkml@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 25, 2018 at 1:32 PM Lai Jiangshan
> <jiangshanlai+lkml@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Is it possible to avoid adding any syscall?
> >
> > Since holding /proc/pid/reg_file can also hold the pid.
> > With this guarantee, /proc/pid/uuid (universally unique identifier ) can be
> > introduced to identify tasks, the kernel generates
> > a uuid for every task when created.
> >
> > save_pid_uuid_pair_for_later_kill(int pid) {
> > /* save via /proc/$pid/uuid */
> > /* don't need to keep any fd after save */
> > }
> >
> > safe_kill(pid, uuid, sig) {
> > fd = open(/proc/$pid/uuid); /* also hold the pid until close() if
> > open() successes */
> > if (open successes and read uuid from fd and if it equals to uuid)
> > kill(pid, sig)
> > close(fd)
> > }
> >
> > All things needed to be done is to implement /proc/pid/uuid. And if pid can't
> > be recycled within 1 ticket, or the user can ensure it. The user can use
> > starttime(in /proc/pid/stat) instead.
> >
> > save_pid_starttime_pair_for_later_kill(int pid) {
> > /* save via /proc/$pid/stat */
> > /* don't need to keep any fd after save or keep it for 1 ticket at most */
> > }
> >
> > safe_kill(pid, starttime, sig) {
> > fd = open(/proc/$pid/stat); /* also hold the pid until close() if
> > open() successes */
> > if (open successes and read starttime from fd and if it equals to starttime)
> > kill(pid, sig)
> > close(fd)
> > }
> >
> > In this case, zero LOC is added in the kernel. All of it depends on
> > the guarantee that holding /proc/pid/reg_file also holds the pid,
> > one of which I haven't checked carefully either.
> >
>
> Oh, Sorry, I was wrong, the pid isn't reserved even when
> the fd is kept in the user space. And I'm sorry that I had
> replied to an "old" email thread.
Don't worry, this was a common point of confusion during this (and
sister) threads. All the fd ensures is that access through that fd will
give you -ESRCH if the process is gone (and if the PID is reused it will
still give you -ESRCH).
--
Aleksa Sarai
Senior Software Engineer (Containers)
SUSE Linux GmbH
<https://www.cyphar.com/>
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prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-12-25 12:08 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-11-20 10:51 [PATCH v2] signal: add procfd_signal() syscall Christian Brauner
2018-11-20 10:51 ` [PATCH v2] procfd_signal.2: document procfd_signal syscall Christian Brauner
2018-11-22 8:00 ` [PATCH v2] signal: add procfd_signal() syscall Serge E. Hallyn
2018-11-22 8:23 ` Aleksa Sarai
2018-11-28 14:05 ` Arnd Bergmann
2018-11-29 12:28 ` Florian Weimer
2018-11-29 16:54 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-11-29 19:16 ` Christian Brauner
2018-11-29 19:22 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-11-29 19:55 ` Christian Brauner
2018-11-29 20:14 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-11-29 21:02 ` Arnd Bergmann
2018-11-29 21:35 ` Christian Brauner
2018-11-29 21:40 ` Arnd Bergmann
2018-11-30 2:40 ` Aleksa Sarai
2018-12-01 1:25 ` Christian Brauner
2018-11-30 5:13 ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-11-30 6:56 ` Christian Brauner
2018-11-30 11:41 ` Arnd Bergmann
2018-11-30 16:35 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-11-30 21:57 ` Christian Brauner
2018-11-30 22:09 ` Arnd Bergmann
2018-11-30 22:26 ` Christian Brauner
2018-11-30 23:05 ` Daniel Colascione
2018-11-30 23:12 ` Arnd Bergmann
2018-11-30 23:15 ` Arnd Bergmann
2018-11-30 23:37 ` Christian Brauner
2018-11-30 23:46 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-12-01 1:20 ` Christian Brauner
2018-11-30 23:53 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-12-01 8:51 ` Arnd Bergmann
2018-12-01 9:17 ` Christian Brauner
2018-12-01 10:27 ` Arnd Bergmann
2018-12-01 13:41 ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-12-01 14:46 ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-12-01 15:28 ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-12-01 15:52 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-12-01 16:27 ` Christian Brauner
2018-12-02 0:06 ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-12-02 1:14 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-12-02 8:52 ` Christian Brauner
2018-11-30 23:52 ` Christian Brauner
2018-12-02 10:03 ` Christian Brauner
2018-12-03 16:57 ` Florian Weimer
2018-12-03 18:02 ` Christian Brauner
2018-12-04 6:03 ` Aleksa Sarai
2018-12-04 12:55 ` Florian Weimer
2018-12-04 13:26 ` Christian Brauner
2018-12-06 18:54 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-12-06 18:56 ` Florian Weimer
2018-12-06 19:03 ` Christian Brauner
2018-12-25 5:32 ` Lai Jiangshan
2018-12-25 7:11 ` Lai Jiangshan
2018-12-25 12:07 ` Aleksa Sarai [this message]
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