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From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@mellanox.com>
To: Jerome Glisse <jglisse@redhat.com>
Cc: Logan Gunthorpe <logang@deltatee.com>,
	"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	"Rafael J . Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>,
	Bjorn Helgaas <bhelgaas@google.com>,
	Christian Koenig <christian.koenig@amd.com>,
	Felix Kuehling <Felix.Kuehling@amd.com>,
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	"dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org"
	<dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org>, Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>,
	Marek Szyprowski <m.szyprowski@samsung.com>,
	Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@arm.com>,
	Joerg Roedel <jroedel@suse.de>,
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	<iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 3/5] mm/vma: add support for peer to peer to device vma
Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2019 04:30:27 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190130043020.GC30598@mellanox.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190130000805.GS3176@redhat.com>

On Tue, Jan 29, 2019 at 07:08:06PM -0500, Jerome Glisse wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 29, 2019 at 11:02:25PM +0000, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> > On Tue, Jan 29, 2019 at 03:44:00PM -0500, Jerome Glisse wrote:
> > 
> > > > But this API doesn't seem to offer any control - I thought that
> > > > control was all coming from the mm/hmm notifiers triggering p2p_unmaps?
> > > 
> > > The control is within the driver implementation of those callbacks. 
> > 
> > Seems like what you mean by control is 'the exporter gets to choose
> > the physical address at the instant of map' - which seems reasonable
> > for GPU.
> > 
> > 
> > > will only allow p2p map to succeed for objects that have been tagged by the
> > > userspace in some way ie the userspace application is in control of what
> > > can be map to peer device.
> > 
> > I would have thought this means the VMA for the object is created
> > without the map/unmap ops? Or are GPU objects and VMAs unrelated?
> 
> GPU object and VMA are unrelated in all open source GPU driver i am
> somewhat familiar with (AMD, Intel, NVidia). You can create a GPU
> object and never map it (and thus never have it associated with a
> vma) and in fact this is very common. For graphic you usualy only
> have hand full of the hundreds of GPU object your application have
> mapped.

I mean the other way does every VMA with a p2p_map/unmap point to
exactly one GPU object?

ie I'm surprised you say that p2p_map needs to have policy, I would
have though the policy is applied when the VMA is created (ie objects
that are not for p2p do not have p2p_map set), and even for GPU
p2p_map should really only have to do with window allocation and pure
'can I even do p2p' type functionality.

> Idea is that we can only ask exporter to be predictable and still allow
> them to fail if things are really going bad.

I think hot unplug / PCI error recovery is one of the 'really going
bad' cases..

> I think i put it in the comment above the ops but in any cases i should
> write something in documentation with example and thorough guideline.
> Note that there won't be any mmu notifier to mmap of a device file
> unless the device driver calls for it or there is a syscall like munmap
> or mremap or mprotect well any syscall that work on vma.

This is something we might need to explore, does calling
zap_vma_ptes() invoke enough notifiers that a MMU notifiers or HMM
mirror consumer will release any p2p maps on that VMA?

> If we ever want to support full pin then we might have to add a
> flag so that GPU driver can refuse an importer that wants things
> pin forever.

This would become interesting for VFIO and RDMA at least - I don't
think VFIO has anything like SVA so it would want to import a p2p_map
and indicate that it will not respond to MMU notifiers.

GPU can refuse, but maybe RDMA would allow it...

Jason

  reply	other threads:[~2019-01-30  4:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 95+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-01-29 17:47 [RFC PATCH 0/5] Device peer to peer (p2p) through vma jglisse
2019-01-29 17:47 ` [RFC PATCH 1/5] pci/p2p: add a function to test peer to peer capability jglisse
2019-01-29 18:24   ` Logan Gunthorpe
2019-01-29 19:44     ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2019-01-29 19:53       ` Jerome Glisse
2019-01-29 20:44       ` Logan Gunthorpe
2019-01-29 21:00         ` Jerome Glisse
2019-01-29 19:56   ` Alex Deucher
2019-01-29 20:00     ` Jerome Glisse
2019-01-29 20:24     ` Logan Gunthorpe
2019-01-29 21:28       ` Alex Deucher
2019-01-30 10:25       ` Christian König
2019-01-29 17:47 ` [RFC PATCH 2/5] drivers/base: " jglisse
2019-01-29 18:26   ` Logan Gunthorpe
2019-01-29 19:54     ` Jerome Glisse
2019-01-29 19:46   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2019-01-29 19:56     ` Jerome Glisse
2019-01-29 17:47 ` [RFC PATCH 3/5] mm/vma: add support for peer to peer to device vma jglisse
2019-01-29 18:36   ` Logan Gunthorpe
2019-01-29 19:11     ` Jerome Glisse
2019-01-29 19:24       ` Logan Gunthorpe
2019-01-29 19:44         ` Jerome Glisse
2019-01-29 20:43           ` Logan Gunthorpe
2019-01-30  7:52             ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-01-29 19:32       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-01-29 19:50         ` Jerome Glisse
2019-01-29 20:24           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-01-29 20:44             ` Jerome Glisse
2019-01-29 23:02               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-01-30  0:08                 ` Jerome Glisse
2019-01-30  4:30                   ` Jason Gunthorpe [this message]
2019-01-30 15:43                     ` Jerome Glisse
2019-01-29 20:39         ` Logan Gunthorpe
2019-01-29 20:57           ` Jerome Glisse
2019-01-29 21:30             ` Logan Gunthorpe
2019-01-29 21:50               ` Jerome Glisse
2019-01-29 22:58                 ` Logan Gunthorpe
2019-01-29 23:47                   ` Jerome Glisse
2019-01-30  1:17                     ` Logan Gunthorpe
2019-01-30  2:48                       ` Jerome Glisse
2019-01-30  4:18                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-01-30  8:00                         ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-01-30 15:49                           ` Jerome Glisse
2019-01-30 19:06                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-01-30 19:45                             ` Logan Gunthorpe
2019-01-30 19:59                               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-01-30 21:01                                 ` Logan Gunthorpe
2019-01-30 21:50                                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-01-30 22:52                                     ` Logan Gunthorpe
2019-01-30 23:30                                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-01-31  8:13                                       ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-01-31 15:37                                         ` Jerome Glisse
2019-01-31 19:02                                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-01-31 19:19                                           ` Logan Gunthorpe
2019-01-31 19:54                                             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-01-31 19:35                                           ` Jerome Glisse
2019-01-31 19:44                                             ` Logan Gunthorpe
2019-01-31 19:58                                             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-01-30 17:17                         ` Logan Gunthorpe
2019-01-30 18:56                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-01-30 19:22                             ` Jerome Glisse
2019-01-30 19:38                               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-01-30 20:00                                 ` Logan Gunthorpe
2019-01-30 20:11                                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-01-30 20:43                                     ` Jerome Glisse
2019-01-30 20:50                                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-01-30 21:45                                         ` Jerome Glisse
2019-01-30 21:56                                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-01-30 22:30                                             ` Jerome Glisse
2019-01-30 22:33                                               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-01-30 22:47                                                 ` Jerome Glisse
2019-01-30 22:51                                                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-01-30 22:58                                                     ` Jerome Glisse
2019-01-30 19:52                               ` Logan Gunthorpe
2019-01-30 20:35                                 ` Jerome Glisse
2019-01-29 20:58           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-01-30  8:02             ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-01-30 10:33               ` Koenig, Christian
2019-01-30 15:55                 ` Jerome Glisse
2019-01-30 17:26                   ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-01-30 17:32                     ` Logan Gunthorpe
2019-01-30 17:39                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-01-30 18:05                     ` Jerome Glisse
2019-01-30 17:44               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-01-30 18:13                 ` Logan Gunthorpe
2019-01-30 18:50                   ` Jerome Glisse
2019-01-31  8:02                     ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-01-31 15:03                       ` Jerome Glisse
2019-01-30 19:19                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-01-30 19:48                     ` Logan Gunthorpe
2019-01-30 20:44                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-01-31  8:05                         ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-01-31 15:11                           ` Jerome Glisse
2019-01-29 17:47 ` [RFC PATCH 4/5] mm/hmm: add support for peer to peer to HMM device memory jglisse
2019-01-29 17:47 ` [RFC PATCH 5/5] mm/hmm: add support for peer to peer to special device vma jglisse

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