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From: Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab+samsung@kernel.org>
To: Gonsolo <gonsolo@gmail.com>
Cc: JP <jp@jpvw.nl>, crope@iki.fi, Sean Young <sean@mess.org>,
	linux-media@vger.kernel.org,
	Linux Kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] si2157: Add support for Logilink VG0022A.
Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2019 17:03:29 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20191003170329.3624f7f2@coco.lan> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CANL0fFRSNbUhcik7rnhjZ0qUe-tZyzcjY+M1J_iGzUa5jNc9_A@mail.gmail.com>

Em Thu, 3 Oct 2019 21:51:35 +0200
Gonsolo <gonsolo@gmail.com> escreveu:

> > 1) The firmware file is likely at the Windows driver for this device
> > (probably using a different format). It should be possible to get
> > it from there.  
> 
> If you tell me how I'm willing to do this. :)

I don't know. I was not the one that extracted the firmware. I guess
Antti did it.

I suspect that there are some comments about that in the past at the
ML. seek at lore.kernel.org.

> 
> > 2) Another possibility would be to add a way to tell the si2168 driver
> > to not try to load a firmware, using the original one. That would
> > require adding a field at si2168_config to allow signalizing to it
> > that it should not try to load a firmware file, and add a quirk at
> > the af9035 that would set such flag for Logilink VG0022A.  
> 
> I don't get this. Which firmware, si2168 or si2157?

The one that it is causing the problem. If I understood well, the
culprit was the si2168 firmware.

> I'm still for option 3: If there is a bogus chip revision number it's
> likely the VG0022A and we can safely set fw to NULL, in which case
> everything works.
> All already working devices will continue to work as before.
> With a low probability there are other devices that will return 0xffff
> but a) they didn't work until now and b) they receive a clear message
> that they return bogus numbers and this works just for the VG0022A, in
> which case this hardware can be tested.
> At last, *my* VG0022A will work without a custom kernel which I'm a
> big fan of. :))
> 
> Are there any counterarguments except that it is not the cleanest
> solution in the universe? ;)

That's a really bad solution. Returning 0xff is what happens when
things go wrong during I2C transfers. Several problems can cause it,
including device misfunction. Every time someone comes with a patch
trying to ignore it, things go sideways for other devices (existing
or future ones).

Ignoring errors is always a bad idea.

Also, it is a very bad idea to load a firmware that it is not
compatible with a device. There are even cases of devices that
were burned due to that[1].

[1] XCeive has two versions of 3028/2028 chipsets. One with a
"normal power" and a "low power" version. If the firmware for
the "normal power" (version 2.7) is used at the "low power" chip
(with requires version 3.6), it makes the chipset hotter and
reduces a lot the lifetime of the tuner.

Thanks,
Mauro

  reply	other threads:[~2019-10-03 20:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 77+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-01-30 10:32 DVB-T2 Stick Gonsolo
2019-02-19 21:30 ` Sean Young
2019-10-01 22:19   ` Gonsolo
2019-10-01 23:52     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2019-10-02 14:13       ` [PATCH] si2157: Add support for Logilink VG0022A Gon Solo
2019-10-02 14:13         ` Gon Solo
2019-10-02 14:27           ` Sean Young
2019-10-02 14:44             ` Gonsolo
2019-10-02 15:06               ` Sean Young
2019-10-02 15:21                 ` Gonsolo
2019-10-02 17:23                   ` JP
2019-10-02 18:49                     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2019-10-03  8:06                       ` [PATCH 0/1] Testing timing patch " Gon Solo
2019-10-03  8:06                       ` [PATCH 1/1] Test Mauros timing patch Gon Solo
2019-10-03 10:13                       ` [PATCH] si2157: Add support for Logilink VG0022A Gonsolo
2019-10-03 10:57                         ` Gonsolo
2019-10-03 11:17                           ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2019-10-03 11:41                             ` Gonsolo
2019-10-03 12:49                               ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2019-10-03 12:52                                 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2019-10-03 13:02                                   ` Gon Solo
2019-10-03 13:53                                     ` Gonsolo
2019-10-03 14:05                                       ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2019-10-03 14:29                                         ` Gonsolo
2019-10-03 12:01                             ` Gon Solo
2019-10-03 12:12                               ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2019-10-03 12:20                                 ` Gon Solo
2019-10-03 12:45                                   ` [PATCH 0/3] " Gon Solo
2019-10-03 12:45                                   ` [PATCH 1/3] [PATCH] af9035: Better explain how i2c bus speed is computed Gon Solo
2019-10-03 12:45                                   ` [PATCH 2/3] [PATCH] s2157: Handle bogus chip version Gon Solo
2019-10-03 12:45                                   ` [PATCH 3/3] [PATCH] af9035: Add Logilink VG0022A id Gon Solo
2019-10-03 11:05                         ` [PATCH] si2157: Add support for Logilink VG0022A Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2019-10-03 15:00                           ` Gonsolo
2019-10-03 15:02                             ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2019-10-03 15:17                               ` Gonsolo
2019-10-03 16:03                               ` Gon Solo
2019-10-03 16:09                                 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2019-10-03 16:23                                   ` Gon Solo
2019-10-03 17:42                                     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2019-10-03 17:49                                       ` Gonsolo
2019-10-03 18:32                                       ` Gon Solo
2019-10-03 18:42                                         ` JP
2019-10-03 18:50                                           ` Gonsolo
2019-10-03 18:53                                             ` Gonsolo
2019-10-03 19:19                                           ` Gonsolo
2019-10-03 19:39                                             ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2019-10-03 19:44                                               ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2019-10-03 19:51                                                 ` Gonsolo
2019-10-03 20:03                                                   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab [this message]
2019-10-03 20:32                                                     ` Gonsolo
2019-10-04 11:50                                                     ` JP
2019-10-04 12:08                                                       ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2019-10-04 13:15                                                         ` [PATCH 1/4] media: si2168: use bits instead of bool for flags Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2019-10-04 13:15                                                           ` [PATCH 2/4] media: si2168: add support for not loading a firmware Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2019-10-04 13:15                                                           ` [PATCH 3/4] media: af9035: add support for Logilink VG0022A Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2019-10-09 21:44                                                             ` Gon Solo
2019-10-09 22:04                                                               ` Gon Solo
2019-10-10  8:23                                                                 ` Gon Solo
2019-10-10  9:18                                                                 ` Gon Solo
2019-10-10  9:50                                                                   ` [PATCH 0/4] Add " Gon Solo
2019-10-10 10:10                                                                     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2019-10-10  9:51                                                                   ` [PATCH 1/4] si2168: Use bits and convert to kernel-doc format Gon Solo
2019-10-10  9:51                                                                   ` [PATCH 2/4] si2157: Add option for not downloading firmware Gon Solo
2019-10-10  9:51                                                                   ` [PATCH 3/4] af9035: Make speed computation clear Gon Solo
2019-10-10  9:51                                                                   ` [PATCH 4/4] Add support for Logilink VG0022A Gon Solo
2019-10-10 11:44                                                                     ` Gon Solo
2019-11-15 18:06                                                                       ` Gon Solo
2019-10-04 13:15                                                           ` [PATCH 4/4] media: af9035: add the formula used for the I2C speed Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2019-10-10 10:55                                                           ` [PATCH 1/4] media: si2168: use bits instead of bool for flags Gon Solo
2019-10-10 11:34                                                             ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2019-10-10 11:42                                                               ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2019-10-04 13:50                                                         ` [PATCH] si2157: Add support for Logilink VG0022A JP
2019-10-04 14:16                                                           ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2019-10-03 19:40                                             ` Gonsolo
2019-10-03 19:52                                               ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2019-10-03 19:57                                                 ` Gonsolo
2019-10-02 15:00           ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab

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