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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
Cc: x86@kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	mhiramat@kernel.org, bristot@redhat.com, jbaron@akamai.com,
	torvalds@linux-foundation.org, tglx@linutronix.de,
	mingo@kernel.org, namit@vmware.com, hpa@zytor.com,
	luto@kernel.org, ard.biesheuvel@linaro.org, jpoimboe@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 5/6] x86/ftrace: Use text_poke()
Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2019 19:28:19 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20191010172819.GS2328@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20191010115449.22044b53@gandalf.local.home>

On Thu, Oct 10, 2019 at 11:54:49AM -0400, Steven Rostedt wrote:
> On Thu, 10 Oct 2019 16:05:13 +0200
> Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> wrote:
> 
> > > Because we can't do the above once we have more than one CPU running.  
> > 
> > We loose BOOTING _long_ before we gain SMP.
> 
> Ah, yep. But I finally got it working with the following patch:

That looks like it can be done simpler; but my head is exploding, I'll
have to look at this in the AM.

> Is it really important to use text_poke() on text that is coming live?

What is really important is that we never have memory that is both
writable and executable (W^X).

Moving as much poking to before marking it RO (or moving the marking RO
later if that is the same thing) is a sane approach.

But once it gains X, we must never again mark it W, without first
removing X.

> That is, I really hate the above "set_ro" hack. This is because you
> moved the ro setting to create_trampoline() and then forcing the
> text_poke() on text that has just been created. I prefer to just modify
> it and then setting it to ro before it gets executed. Otherwise we need
> to do all these dances.

I thought create_trampoline() finished the whole thing; if it does not,
either make create_trampoline() do everything, or add a
finish_trampoline() callback to mark it complete.

> The same is with the module code. My patch was turning text to
> read-write that is not to be executed yet. Really, what's wrong with
> that?

The fact that it is executable; also the fact that you do it right after
we mark it ro. Flipping the memory protections back and forth is just
really poor everything.

Once this ftrace thing is sorted, we'll change x86 to _refuse_ to make
executable (kernel) memory writable.

Really the best solution is to move all the poking into
ftrace_module_init(), before we mark it RO+X. That's what I'm going to
do for jump_label and static_call as well, I just need to add that extra
notifier callback.

  reply	other threads:[~2019-10-10 17:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 128+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-10-07  9:02 [RESEND] everything text-poke: ftrace, modules, static_call and jump_label Peter Zijlstra
2019-10-07  8:17 ` [PATCH v3 0/6] Rewrite x86/ftrace to use text_poke() Peter Zijlstra
2019-10-07  8:17   ` [PATCH v3 1/6] x86/alternatives: Teach text_poke_bp() to emulate instructions Peter Zijlstra
2019-10-08 14:29     ` Borislav Petkov
2019-10-08 14:40       ` Steven Rostedt
2019-10-08 14:50         ` Borislav Petkov
2019-10-08 14:48       ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-10-08 14:54         ` Borislav Petkov
2019-10-08 15:04           ` Steven Rostedt
2019-10-08 15:24             ` Borislav Petkov
2019-10-09 12:03     ` Daniel Bristot de Oliveira
2019-10-07  8:17   ` [PATCH v3 2/6] x86/alternatives: Update int3_emulate_push() comment Peter Zijlstra
2019-10-07  8:17   ` [PATCH v3 3/6] x86/alternatives,jump_label: Provide better text_poke() batching interface Peter Zijlstra
2019-10-09 12:04     ` Daniel Bristot de Oliveira
2019-10-07  8:17   ` [PATCH v3 4/6] x86/alternatives: Add and use text_gen_insn() helper Peter Zijlstra
2019-10-08  6:23     ` Masami Hiramatsu
2019-10-08  8:15       ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-10-07  8:17   ` [PATCH v3 5/6] x86/ftrace: Use text_poke() Peter Zijlstra
2019-10-08 14:43     ` Steven Rostedt
2019-10-08 17:11       ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-10-08 17:27         ` Steven Rostedt
2019-10-10  2:41       ` Steven Rostedt
2019-10-10  9:20         ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-10-10 13:19           ` Steven Rostedt
2019-10-10 14:05             ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-10-10 15:54               ` Steven Rostedt
2019-10-10 17:28                 ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2019-10-10 17:48                   ` Steven Rostedt
2019-10-11 10:45                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-10-11 10:47                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-10-11 10:50                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-10-11 12:59                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-10-11 13:33                     ` Steven Rostedt
2019-10-11 13:45                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-10-15 13:07                     ` Jessica Yu
2019-10-15 13:56                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-10-15 14:11                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-10-15 14:13                         ` Miroslav Benes
2019-10-15 15:06                           ` Joe Lawrence
2019-10-15 15:31                             ` Jessica Yu
2019-10-15 22:17                               ` Joe Lawrence
2019-10-15 22:27                                 ` Steven Rostedt
2019-10-16  7:42                                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-10-16 10:15                                     ` Miroslav Benes
2019-10-21 15:05                                     ` Josh Poimboeuf
2020-01-20 16:50                                       ` Josh Poimboeuf
2020-01-21  8:35                                         ` Miroslav Benes
2020-01-21 16:10                                           ` Josh Poimboeuf
2020-01-22 10:09                                             ` Miroslav Benes
2020-01-22 21:42                                               ` Josh Poimboeuf
2020-01-28  9:28                                                 ` Miroslav Benes
2020-01-28 15:00                                                   ` Josh Poimboeuf
2020-01-28 15:40                                                     ` Petr Mladek
2020-01-28 17:02                                                       ` Josh Poimboeuf
2020-01-29  0:46                                                         ` Jiri Kosina
2020-01-29  2:17                                                           ` Josh Poimboeuf
2020-01-29  3:14                                                             ` Jiri Kosina
2020-01-29 12:28                                                         ` Miroslav Benes
2020-01-29 15:59                                                           ` Josh Poimboeuf
2020-01-30  9:53                                                             ` Petr Mladek
2020-01-30 14:17                                                               ` Josh Poimboeuf
2020-01-31  7:17                                                                 ` Petr Mladek
2020-01-22 12:15                                             ` Miroslav Benes
2020-01-22 15:05                                               ` Miroslav Benes
2020-01-22 22:03                                                 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2020-01-23 10:19                                                   ` Martin Jambor
2019-10-16  7:49                                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-10-16 10:20                                     ` Miroslav Benes
2019-10-16 13:29                                       ` Miroslav Benes
2019-10-18 13:03                                         ` Jessica Yu
2019-10-18 13:40                                           ` Petr Mladek
2019-10-21 14:14                                             ` Jessica Yu
2019-10-21 15:31                                             ` Josh Poimboeuf
2019-10-22  8:27                                           ` Miroslav Benes
2019-10-22 14:31                                             ` Josh Poimboeuf
2019-10-23  9:04                                               ` Miroslav Benes
2019-10-16  6:51                             ` Miroslav Benes
2019-10-16  9:23                               ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-10-16  9:36                                 ` Jessica Yu
2019-10-16  9:51                                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-10-16 12:39                               ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-10-22  8:45                                 ` Miroslav Benes
2019-10-15 14:42                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-10-15 18:31                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-10-15 15:51                         ` Jessica Yu
2019-10-15 13:28                     ` Steven Rostedt
2019-10-15 13:42                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-10-15 16:09                       ` Jessica Yu
2019-10-07  8:17   ` [PATCH v3 6/6] x86/mm: Remove set_kernel_text_r[ow]() Peter Zijlstra
2019-10-08 15:07   ` [PATCH v3 0/6] Rewrite x86/ftrace to use text_poke() Steven Rostedt
2019-10-07  8:25 ` [PATCH v2 0/4] Propagate module notifier errors Peter Zijlstra
2019-10-07  8:25   ` [PATCH v2 1/4] notifier: Fix broken error handling pattern Peter Zijlstra
2019-10-10 22:01     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2019-10-07  8:25   ` [PATCH v2 2/4] module: Fix up module_notifier return values Peter Zijlstra
2019-10-23 19:25     ` Steven Rostedt
2019-10-07  8:25   ` [PATCH v2 3/4] module: Properly propagate MODULE_STATE_COMING failure Peter Zijlstra
2019-10-08 13:08     ` Miroslav Benes
2019-10-07  8:25   ` [PATCH v2 4/4] jump_label,module: Fix module lifetime for __jump_label_mod_text_reserved Peter Zijlstra
2019-10-23 19:29     ` Steven Rostedt
2019-10-07  8:27 ` [PATCH v2 00/13] Add static_call() Peter Zijlstra
2019-10-07  8:27   ` [PATCH v2 01/13] compiler.h: Make __ADDRESSABLE() symbol truly unique Peter Zijlstra
2019-10-07  8:27   ` [PATCH v2 02/13] static_call: Add basic static call infrastructure Peter Zijlstra
2019-10-07 11:33     ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-10-07  8:27   ` [PATCH v2 03/13] static_call: Add inline " Peter Zijlstra
2019-10-07  8:27   ` [PATCH v2 04/13] static_call: Avoid kprobes on inline static_call()s Peter Zijlstra
2019-10-07  8:27   ` [PATCH v2 05/13] x86/static_call: Add out-of-line static call implementation Peter Zijlstra
2019-10-07  8:27   ` [PATCH v2 06/13] x86/static_call: Add inline static call implementation for x86-64 Peter Zijlstra
2019-10-07  8:27   ` [PATCH v2 07/13] static_call: Simple self-test Peter Zijlstra
2019-10-07  8:27   ` [PATCH v2 08/13] tracepoints: Use static_call Peter Zijlstra
2019-10-07  8:27   ` [PATCH v2 09/13] x86/alternatives: Teach text_poke_bp() to emulate RET Peter Zijlstra
2019-10-07  8:27   ` [PATCH v2 10/13] static_call: Add static_cond_call() Peter Zijlstra
2019-10-07  8:27   ` [PATCH v2 11/13] static_call: Handle tail-calls Peter Zijlstra
2019-10-07  8:27   ` [PATCH v2 12/13] static_call: Allow early init Peter Zijlstra
2019-10-07  8:27   ` [RFC][PATCH v2 13/13] x86/perf, static_call: Optimize x86_pmu methods Peter Zijlstra
2019-10-07 11:33   ` [PATCH v2 00/13] Add static_call() Peter Zijlstra
2019-10-07  8:44 ` [RFC][PATCH 0/9] Variable size jump_label support Peter Zijlstra
2019-10-07  8:44   ` [RFC][PATCH 1/9] jump_label, x86: Strip ASM " Peter Zijlstra
2019-10-07  8:44   ` [RFC][PATCH 2/9] jump_label, x86: Factor out the __jump_table generation Peter Zijlstra
2019-10-07  8:44   ` [RFC][PATCH 3/9] jump_label, x86: Remove init NOP optimization Peter Zijlstra
2019-10-07  8:44   ` [RFC][PATCH 4/9] jump_label, x86: Improve error when we fail expected text Peter Zijlstra
2019-10-07  8:44   ` [RFC][PATCH 5/9] jump_label, x86: Introduce jump_entry_size() Peter Zijlstra
2019-10-07  8:44   ` [RFC][PATCH 6/9] jump_label, x86: Add variable length patching support Peter Zijlstra
2019-10-07  8:44   ` [RFC][PATCH 7/9] jump_label,objtool: Validate variable size jump labels Peter Zijlstra
2019-10-07  8:44   ` [RFC][PATCH 8/9] jump_label,objtool: Generate possible statistics Peter Zijlstra
2019-10-07  8:44   ` [RFC][PATCH 9/9] jump_label, x86: Enable JMP8/NOP2 support Peter Zijlstra
2019-10-07 12:07   ` [RFC][PATCH 0/9] Variable size jump_label support Peter Zijlstra
2019-10-07 12:55     ` Ingo Molnar
2019-10-07 15:08       ` Steven Rostedt

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