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From: Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>
To: Russell King - ARM Linux admin <linux@armlinux.org.uk>
Cc: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
	Anders Roxell <anders.roxell@linaro.org>,
	Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	John Garry <john.garry@huawei.com>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Olof Johansson <olof@lixom.net>,
	Linux ARM <linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
	Chunrong Guo <chunrong.guo@nxp.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/3] arm64: configs: unset CPU_BIG_ENDIAN
Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2019 17:24:17 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20191014162416.uz33olqhgvzioqdk@willie-the-truck> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20191012145055.GO25745@shell.armlinux.org.uk>

On Sat, Oct 12, 2019 at 03:50:55PM +0100, Russell King - ARM Linux admin wrote:
> On Sat, Oct 12, 2019 at 12:47:45AM +0200, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> > On Fri, Oct 11, 2019 at 12:33 PM Russell King - ARM Linux admin
> > <linux@armlinux.org.uk> wrote:
> > > 32-bit ARM experience is that telco class users really like big
> > > endian.
> > 
> > Right, basically anyone with a large code base migrated over from a
> > big-endian MIPS or PowerPC legacy that found it cheaper to change
> > the rest of the world than to fix their own code.
> 
> I think you need to step off your soap box!  Big endian isn't going
> away, and it likely has nothing to do with code bases.  Just look at
> networking and telco protocols.  Everything in that world tends to
> be big endian.  BE is what is understood in that world, and there's
> little we can do to change it.
> 
> Demanding that they switch to LE is tantamount to you demanding that
> their entire world change - it ain't going to happen.

Oh, I wasn't demanding anything! Just interested to know if big-endian is
actually being used because it's not something that I'm able to test
sensibly and I haven't see anywhere near the amount of (public) effort to
keep it supported as for little-endian. However, having asked the question,
it's clear that it does have some users so we'll keep maintaining it on a
best-effort basis and rely on those users to let us know if anything breaks.

Will

  reply	other threads:[~2019-10-14 16:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-09-26 19:30 [PATCH 0/3] arm64: defconfig: set/unset for allmodconfig Anders Roxell
2019-09-26 19:30 ` [PATCH 1/3] arm64: configs: defconfig: enable DEBUG_PREEMPT and FTRACE Anders Roxell
2019-09-26 19:30 ` [PATCH] arm64: configs: defconfig: remove unneeded fragments Anders Roxell
2019-09-26 19:30 ` [PATCH 2/3] arm64: configs: unset CMDLINE_FORCE Anders Roxell
2019-10-15  8:38   ` John Garry
2019-09-26 19:30 ` [PATCH 3/3] arm64: configs: unset CPU_BIG_ENDIAN Anders Roxell
2019-10-01 14:04   ` John Garry
2019-10-03  7:40     ` Anders Roxell
2019-10-03 11:15       ` John Garry
2019-10-11 10:25         ` Arnd Bergmann
2019-10-11 10:27           ` Will Deacon
2019-10-11 10:33             ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin
2019-10-11 22:47               ` Arnd Bergmann
2019-10-12 14:50                 ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin
2019-10-14 16:24                   ` Will Deacon [this message]
2019-10-15  3:13                     ` Hanjun Guo
2019-10-12  7:33             ` Hanjun Guo
2019-10-12 14:05               ` Arnd Bergmann
2019-10-14  6:12                 ` Hanjun Guo
2019-10-14 16:20                 ` Will Deacon
2019-10-14 10:58 ` [PATCH 0/3] arm64: defconfig: set/unset for allmodconfig John Garry

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