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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>
Cc: paulmck <paulmck@kernel.org>, x86 <x86@kernel.org>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Masami Hiramatsu <mhiramat@kernel.org>,
	bristot <bristot@redhat.com>, jbaron <jbaron@akamai.com>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>, Nadav Amit <namit@vmware.com>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>,
	Ard Biesheuvel <ard.biesheuvel@linaro.org>,
	Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@redhat.com>,
	Jessica Yu <jeyu@kernel.org>,
	Alexei Starovoitov <alexei.starovoitov@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH -v5 12/17] x86/kprobes: Fix ordering
Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2019 16:28:29 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20191114152829.GA4131@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <135240750.136.1573744944568.JavaMail.zimbra@efficios.com>

On Thu, Nov 14, 2019 at 10:22:24AM -0500, Mathieu Desnoyers wrote:

> >> > So what we do, after enabling the regular kprobe, is call
> >> > synchronize_rcu_tasks() to wait for each task to have passed through
> >> > schedule(). That guarantees no task is preempted inside the kprobe
> >> > shadow (when it triggers it ensures it resumes execution at an
> >> > instruction boundary further than 5 bytes away).
> >> 
> >> Indeed, given that synchronize_rcu_tasks() awaits for voluntary context
> >> switches (or user-space execution), it guarantees that no task was preempted
> >> within the kprobe shadow.
> >> 
> >> Considering that synchronize_rcu_tasks() is meant only for code rewriting,
> >> I wonder if it would make sense to include the core serializing guarantees
> >> within this RCU API ?
> > 
> > As in have synchronize_rcu_tasks() do the IPI-sync love before doing
> > the current wait-for-voluntary-context-switch work?
> 
> This is what I have in mind, yes, based on the assumption that the only
> intended use-case for synchronize_rcu_tasks() is code patching.

I don't think that is needed. As per the patch under discussion, we
unconditionally need that IPI-sync (even for !optimized) but we only
need the synchonize_rcu_tasks() thing for optimized kprobes.

Also, they really do two different things. Lets not tie them together.

  reply	other threads:[~2019-11-14 15:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 106+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-11-11 13:12 [PATCH -v5 00/17] Rewrite x86/ftrace to use text_poke (and more) Peter Zijlstra
2019-11-11 13:12 ` [PATCH -v5 01/17] x86/alternatives: Teach text_poke_bp() to emulate instructions Peter Zijlstra
2019-11-15  9:43   ` [tip: core/kprobes] " tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2019-11-11 13:12 ` [PATCH -v5 02/17] x86/alternatives: Update int3_emulate_push() comment Peter Zijlstra
2019-11-15  9:43   ` [tip: core/kprobes] " tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2019-12-04  8:33   ` tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2019-11-11 13:12 ` [PATCH -v5 03/17] x86/alternatives,jump_label: Provide better text_poke() batching interface Peter Zijlstra
2019-11-15  9:43   ` [tip: core/kprobes] x86/alternatives, jump_label: " tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2019-12-04  8:33   ` tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2019-11-11 13:12 ` [PATCH -v5 04/17] x86/alternatives: Add and use text_gen_insn() helper Peter Zijlstra
2019-11-12 17:10   ` Steven Rostedt
2019-11-12 22:25     ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-11-15  9:43   ` [tip: core/kprobes] " tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2019-12-04  8:33   ` tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2019-11-11 13:12 ` [PATCH -v5 05/17] x86/ftrace: Use text_poke() Peter Zijlstra
2019-11-12 18:25   ` Steven Rostedt
2019-11-12 22:24     ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-11-12 22:48       ` Steven Rostedt
2019-11-13  9:01         ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-11-13 14:27           ` Steven Rostedt
2019-11-14 13:18             ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-11-14 13:56               ` Steven Rostedt
2019-11-14 14:05                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-11-13  8:53       ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-11-15  9:43   ` [tip: core/kprobes] " tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2019-11-16 20:46     ` Borislav Petkov
2019-11-18 17:35       ` [PATCH] x86/ftrace: Mark ftrace_modify_code_direct() __ref Borislav Petkov
2019-11-18 17:52         ` Steven Rostedt
2019-11-19  9:55       ` [tip: core/kprobes] " tip-bot2 for Borislav Petkov
2019-12-04  8:33       ` tip-bot2 for Borislav Petkov
2019-12-04  8:33   ` [tip: core/kprobes] x86/ftrace: Use text_poke() tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2019-11-11 13:12 ` [PATCH -v5 06/17] x86/mm: Remove set_kernel_text_r[ow]() Peter Zijlstra
2019-11-15  9:43   ` [tip: core/kprobes] " tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2019-12-04  8:33   ` tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2019-11-11 13:12 ` [PATCH -v5 07/17] x86/alternative: Add text_opcode_size() Peter Zijlstra
2019-11-15  9:43   ` [tip: core/kprobes] " tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2019-12-04  8:33   ` tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2019-11-11 13:13 ` [PATCH -v5 08/17] x86/ftrace: Use text_gen_insn() Peter Zijlstra
2019-11-15  9:43   ` [tip: core/kprobes] " tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2019-12-04  8:33   ` tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2019-11-11 13:13 ` [PATCH -v5 09/17] x86/alternative: Remove text_poke_loc::len Peter Zijlstra
2019-11-15  9:43   ` [tip: core/kprobes] " tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2019-12-04  8:33   ` tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2019-11-11 13:13 ` [PATCH -v5 10/17] x86/alternative: Shrink text_poke_loc Peter Zijlstra
2019-11-15  9:43   ` [tip: core/kprobes] " tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2019-12-04  8:33   ` tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2019-11-11 13:13 ` [PATCH -v5 11/17] x86/kprobes: Convert to text-patching.h Peter Zijlstra
2019-11-19 16:56   ` [tip: core/kprobes] " tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2019-12-04  8:33   ` tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2019-11-11 13:13 ` [PATCH -v5 12/17] x86/kprobes: Fix ordering Peter Zijlstra
2019-11-13 14:31   ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-11-13 15:42   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2019-11-14 13:53     ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-11-14 15:06       ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2019-11-14 15:13         ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-11-14 15:22           ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2019-11-14 15:28             ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2019-11-14 15:30               ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2019-11-14 15:42                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-11-14 15:58                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-11-19 16:56   ` [tip: core/kprobes] x86/kprobes: Fix ordering while text-patching tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2019-12-04  8:33   ` tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2019-11-11 13:13 ` [PATCH -v5 13/17] arm/ftrace: Use __patch_text_real() Peter Zijlstra
2019-11-11 16:47   ` Will Deacon
2019-11-11 17:19     ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-11-11 17:25       ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-11-12 11:29         ` Will Deacon
2019-11-13  9:26           ` [PATCH -v5mkII 13/17] arm/ftrace: Use __patch_text() Peter Zijlstra
2019-11-19 16:56             ` [tip: core/kprobes] " tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2019-12-04  8:33             ` tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2020-01-22 21:26               ` Dmitry Osipenko
2020-02-07 10:17                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-02-07 10:26                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-02-07 11:27                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-02-07 16:47                   ` Dmitry Osipenko
2020-01-08 12:22             ` [PATCH -v5mkII 13/17] " Arnd Bergmann
2020-01-08 14:16               ` Steven Rostedt
2020-01-08 14:22                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2019-11-11 13:13 ` [PATCH -v5 14/17] module: Remove set_all_modules_text_*() Peter Zijlstra
2019-11-19 16:56   ` [tip: core/kprobes] " tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2019-12-04  8:33   ` tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2019-11-11 13:13 ` [PATCH -v5 15/17] ftrace: Rework event_create_dir() Peter Zijlstra
2019-11-14 14:07   ` Steven Rostedt
2019-11-19 16:56   ` [tip: core/kprobes] " tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2019-12-04  8:33   ` tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2019-11-11 13:13 ` [PATCH -v5 16/17] x86/kprobe: Add comments to arch_{,un}optimize_kprobes() Peter Zijlstra
2019-11-19 16:56   ` [tip: core/kprobes] " tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2019-12-04  8:33   ` tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2019-11-11 13:13 ` [PATCH -v5 17/17] x86/alternative: Use INT3_INSN_SIZE Peter Zijlstra
2019-11-19 16:56   ` [tip: core/kprobes] x86/alternatives: " tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2019-12-04  8:33   ` tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2019-11-11 19:47 ` [PATCH -v5 00/17] Rewrite x86/ftrace to use text_poke (and more) Alexei Starovoitov
2019-11-11 20:39   ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-11-11 20:42   ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-11-11 20:56     ` Alexei Starovoitov
2019-11-12 18:26 ` Steven Rostedt
2019-11-25  3:55 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2019-11-25  6:47   ` Masami Hiramatsu
2019-11-25 17:32   ` Steven Rostedt
2019-11-26  0:11     ` Masami Hiramatsu
2019-11-26  8:58       ` Masami Hiramatsu
2019-11-26  9:58         ` Masami Hiramatsu
2019-11-26 23:48           ` Masami Hiramatsu
     [not found]             ` <CAADnVQK4twuXzFhD-qLHmCVK0n1h-GDENQLu+4PVV3Hp++R6kQ@mail.gmail.com>
2019-11-27  4:32               ` Alexei Starovoitov
2019-11-27  5:01                 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2019-11-27  6:41                 ` Masami Hiramatsu

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