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From: Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
To: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
Cc: Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org,
	"K . Prasad" <prasad@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Masami Hiramatsu <mhiramat@kernel.org>,
	Alexei Starovoitov <ast@kernel.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 8/9] block: genhd: export-GPL generic disk device type
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2020 08:45:03 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200411064503.GA2576039@kroah.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200410114444.73be173a@gandalf.local.home>

On Fri, Apr 10, 2020 at 11:44:44AM -0400, Steven Rostedt wrote:
> On Fri, 10 Apr 2020 08:33:57 +0200
> Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
> 
> > I understand your need here, however we do not export things for
> > modules, when there are no in-kernel module users, sorry.
> 
> This "we don't cater to out-of-tree modules" even when they are GPL seems
> to always baffle me. Especially since we have a high bar of accepting out
> of tree modules especially if they duplicate some functionality of an
> existing infrastructure of the kernel. I like choice, and coming from
> someone that spent over a decade working on code that has been out of tree,
> I'm a little sympathetic to the cause ;-)

We can't do anything for out-of-tree modules as they suddenly become
"higher priority" than in-tree code if you have to not do specific
changes or extra work for them.  Which is not fair at all to the in-tree
code developers at all.

With drivers/staging/ we removed the barrier for accepting any license
compliant driver, so that solved the huge majority of these issues.

> I guess we should be open to allowing LTTng modules in the kernel as well,
> even though it is yet another tracing framework. It's not like its going
> away. And perhaps by doing so, ftrace and perf could start taking advantage
> of anything that LTTng brings.

That is up to you all, as you are the one preventing this from being
merged in the tree, not me :)

Again, don't make us do _more_ work for out-of-tree modules than we do
for in-tree modules, that's just crazy to expect.

thanks,

greg k-h

  reply	other threads:[~2020-04-11  6:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-04-09 19:35 [RFC PATCH 0/9] Export information needed by the LTTng kernel tracer Mathieu Desnoyers
2020-04-09 19:35 ` [RFC PATCH 1/9] tracepoint: call vmalloc_sync_mappings() on registration Mathieu Desnoyers
2020-04-09 19:35 ` [RFC PATCH 2/9] bpf: allow up to 13 arguments for tracepoints Mathieu Desnoyers
2020-04-09 19:35 ` [RFC PATCH 3/9] writeback: tracing: pass global_wb_domain as tracepoint parameter Mathieu Desnoyers
2020-04-09 22:33   ` Alexei Starovoitov
2020-04-10 11:54     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2020-04-09 19:35 ` [RFC PATCH 4/9] stacktrace: export-GPL stack_trace_save_user Mathieu Desnoyers
2020-04-12  8:31   ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-04-09 19:35 ` [RFC PATCH 5/9] sched: export-GPL task_prio Mathieu Desnoyers
2020-04-09 19:35 ` [RFC PATCH 6/9] mm: export-GPL get_pageblock_migratetype Mathieu Desnoyers
2020-04-12  8:14   ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-04-09 19:35 ` [RFC PATCH 7/9] block: genhd: export-GPL gendisk_name Mathieu Desnoyers
2020-04-09 19:35 ` [RFC PATCH 8/9] block: genhd: export-GPL generic disk device type Mathieu Desnoyers
2020-04-10  6:33   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2020-04-10 13:31     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2020-04-10 15:44     ` Steven Rostedt
2020-04-11  6:45       ` Greg Kroah-Hartman [this message]
2020-04-09 19:35 ` [RFC PATCH 9/9] block: genhd: export-GPL generic disk block class Mathieu Desnoyers

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