From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.2 required=3.0 tests=HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS,USER_AGENT_SANE_2 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A55BC433DF for ; Mon, 6 Jul 2020 22:28:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [23.128.96.18]) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBF3E206E9 for ; Mon, 6 Jul 2020 22:28:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1726961AbgGFW2W (ORCPT ); Mon, 6 Jul 2020 18:28:22 -0400 Received: from mail.kernel.org ([198.145.29.99]:46500 "EHLO mail.kernel.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1726763AbgGFW2W (ORCPT ); Mon, 6 Jul 2020 18:28:22 -0400 Received: from oasis.local.home (cpe-66-24-58-225.stny.res.rr.com [66.24.58.225]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 2D5EF206E9; Mon, 6 Jul 2020 22:28:21 +0000 (UTC) Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2020 18:28:19 -0400 From: Steven Rostedt To: Pavel Begunkov Cc: Dan Williams , ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org, Greg Kroah-Hartman , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, tech-board-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org, Chris Mason , torvalds@linux-foundation.org Subject: Re: [Tech-board-discuss] [PATCH] CodingStyle: Inclusive Terminology Message-ID: <20200706182819.3467fa32@oasis.local.home> In-Reply-To: <717030b7-ecba-2ca4-39ff-6a5a04a732d4@gmail.com> References: <159389297140.2210796.13590142254668787525.stgit@dwillia2-desk3.amr.corp.intel.com> <1cceba0f-c8ad-260d-9a09-5417bee32d50@gmail.com> <20200706181052.174c290a@oasis.local.home> <717030b7-ecba-2ca4-39ff-6a5a04a732d4@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.17.3 (GTK+ 2.24.32; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Tue, 7 Jul 2020 01:17:47 +0300 Pavel Begunkov wrote: > Totally agree with you! But do we care then whether two _devices_ or _objects_ > are slave-master? Can't see how it fundamentally differs. The term slave carries a lot more meaning than subordinate. I replied to someone else but later realized that the person sent me their reply offlist, so my reply to them was also offlist. What I told them was, back in college (decades ago), when I first mentioned "master/slave" in conversation (I think it was about hard drives), a person in that conversation stated that those were not very nice terms to use. I blew it off back then, but after listening to more people, I found that using "slave" even to describe a device is not something that people care to hear about. And in actuality, does one device actually enslave another device? I think that terminology is misleading to begin with. -- Steve