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From: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
To: Tomasz Figa <tfiga@chromium.org>
Cc: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>,
	Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab@kernel.org>,
	Marek Szyprowski <m.szyprowski@samsung.com>,
	iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@arm.com>,
	linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-media@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 8/8] WIP: add a dma_alloc_contiguous API
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2020 10:26:29 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20201005082629.GA13850@lst.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20201002175040.GA1131147@chromium.org>

On Fri, Oct 02, 2020 at 05:50:40PM +0000, Tomasz Figa wrote:
> Hi Christoph,
> 
> On Wed, Sep 30, 2020 at 06:09:17PM +0200, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> > Add a new API that returns a virtually non-contigous array of pages
> > and dma address.  This API is only implemented for dma-iommu and will
> > not be implemented for non-iommu DMA API instances that have to allocate
> > contiguous memory.  It is up to the caller to check if the API is
> > available.
> 
> Would you mind scheding some more light on what made the previous attempt
> not work well? I liked the previous API because it was more consistent with
> the regular dma_alloc_coherent().

The problem is that with a dma_alloc_noncoherent that can return pages
not in the kernel mapping we can't just use virt_to_page to fill in
scatterlists or mmap the buffer to userspace, but would need new helpers
and another two methods.

> >  - no kernel mapping or only temporary kernel mappings are required.
> >    That is as a better replacement for DMA_ATTR_NO_KERNEL_MAPPING
> >  - a kernel mapping is required for cached and DMA mapped pages, but
> >    the driver also needs the pages to e.g. map them to userspace.
> >    In that sense it is a replacement for some aspects of the recently
> >    removed and never fully implemented DMA_ATTR_NON_CONSISTENT
> 
> What's the expected allocation and mapping flow with the latter? Would that be
> 
> pages = dma_alloc_noncoherent(...)
> vaddr = vmap(pages, ...);
> 
> ?

Yes.  Witht the vmap step optional for replacements of
DMA_ATTR_NO_KERNEL_MAPPING, which is another nightmare to deal with.

> Would one just use the usual dma_sync_for_{cpu,device}() for cache
> invallidate/clean, while keeping the mapping in place?

Yes.  And make sure the API isn't implemented when VIVT caches are
used, but that isn't really different from the current interface.

  reply	other threads:[~2020-10-05  8:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-09-30 16:09 dma_alloc_pages / dma_alloc_noncoherent fixups Christoph Hellwig
2020-09-30 16:09 ` [PATCH 1/8] dma-mapping: remove the {alloc,free}_noncoherent methods Christoph Hellwig
2020-09-30 16:09 ` [PATCH 2/8] dma-mapping: document dma_{alloc,free}_pages Christoph Hellwig
2020-09-30 16:09 ` [PATCH 3/8] dma-direct check for highmem pages in dma_direct_alloc_pages Christoph Hellwig
2020-09-30 16:09 ` [PATCH 4/8] dma-direct: use __GFP_ZERO " Christoph Hellwig
2020-09-30 16:09 ` [PATCH 5/8] dma-direct: factor out a dma_direct_alloc_from_pool helper Christoph Hellwig
2020-09-30 16:09 ` [PATCH 6/8] dma-direct: simplify the DMA_ATTR_NO_KERNEL_MAPPING handling Christoph Hellwig
2020-09-30 16:09 ` [PATCH 7/8] dma-iommu: remove __iommu_dma_mmap Christoph Hellwig
2020-09-30 16:09 ` [PATCH 8/8] WIP: add a dma_alloc_contiguous API Christoph Hellwig
2020-10-02 17:50   ` Tomasz Figa
2020-10-05  8:26     ` Christoph Hellwig [this message]
2020-10-06 20:56       ` Tomasz Figa
2020-10-07  6:21         ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-10-07 12:21           ` Tomasz Figa
2020-10-07 12:24             ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-10-14 13:20   ` Tomasz Figa
2020-10-14 15:03     ` David Laight
2020-11-09 14:53     ` Ricardo Ribalda
2020-11-10  9:25       ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-11-10  9:33         ` Ricardo Ribalda
2020-11-10  9:41           ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-11-10  9:50           ` Tomasz Figa
2020-11-10  9:57             ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-11-17 21:21               ` Ricardo Ribalda
2020-11-18 14:25   ` [PATCH] WIP! media: uvcvideo: Use dma_alloc_noncontiguos API Ricardo Ribalda
2020-11-24 11:35     ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-11-24 12:01       ` Ricardo Ribalda
2020-11-24 13:33         ` Christoph Hellwig

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