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From: Ashish Kalra <ashish.kalra@amd.com>
To: Steve Rutherford <srutherford@google.com>
Cc: "Paolo Bonzini" <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	"Thomas Gleixner" <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	"Ingo Molnar" <mingo@redhat.com>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	"Radim Krčmář" <rkrcmar@redhat.com>,
	"Joerg Roedel" <joro@8bytes.org>, "Borislav Petkov" <bp@suse.de>,
	"Tom Lendacky" <thomas.lendacky@amd.com>,
	"X86 ML" <x86@kernel.org>, "KVM list" <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Sean Christopherson" <seanjc@google.com>,
	"Venu Busireddy" <venu.busireddy@oracle.com>,
	"Brijesh Singh" <brijesh.singh@amd.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v10 12/16] KVM: x86: Introduce new KVM_FEATURE_SEV_LIVE_MIGRATION feature & Custom MSR.
Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2021 13:56:46 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210206135646.GA21650@ashkalra_ubuntu_server> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210206054617.GA19422@ashkalra_ubuntu_server>

Hello Steve,

On Sat, Feb 06, 2021 at 05:46:17AM +0000, Ashish Kalra wrote:
> Hello Steve,
> 
> Continued response to your queries, especially related to userspace
> control of SEV live migration feature : 
> 
> On Fri, Feb 05, 2021 at 06:54:21PM -0800, Steve Rutherford wrote:
> > On Thu, Feb 4, 2021 at 7:08 PM Ashish Kalra <ashish.kalra@amd.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hello Steve,
> > >
> > > On Thu, Feb 04, 2021 at 04:56:35PM -0800, Steve Rutherford wrote:
> > > > On Wed, Feb 3, 2021 at 4:39 PM Ashish Kalra <Ashish.Kalra@amd.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > From: Ashish Kalra <ashish.kalra@amd.com>
> > > > >
> > > > > Add new KVM_FEATURE_SEV_LIVE_MIGRATION feature for guest to check
> > > > > for host-side support for SEV live migration. Also add a new custom
> > > > > MSR_KVM_SEV_LIVE_MIGRATION for guest to enable the SEV live migration
> > > > > feature.
> > > > >
> > > > > Signed-off-by: Ashish Kalra <ashish.kalra@amd.com>
> > > > > ---
> > > > >  Documentation/virt/kvm/cpuid.rst     |  5 +++++
> > > > >  Documentation/virt/kvm/msr.rst       | 12 ++++++++++++
> > > > >  arch/x86/include/uapi/asm/kvm_para.h |  4 ++++
> > > > >  arch/x86/kvm/svm/sev.c               | 13 +++++++++++++
> > > > >  arch/x86/kvm/svm/svm.c               | 16 ++++++++++++++++
> > > > >  arch/x86/kvm/svm/svm.h               |  2 ++
> > > > >  6 files changed, 52 insertions(+)
> > > > >
> > > > > diff --git a/Documentation/virt/kvm/cpuid.rst b/Documentation/virt/kvm/cpuid.rst
> > > > > index cf62162d4be2..0bdb6cdb12d3 100644
> > > > > --- a/Documentation/virt/kvm/cpuid.rst
> > > > > +++ b/Documentation/virt/kvm/cpuid.rst
> > > > > @@ -96,6 +96,11 @@ KVM_FEATURE_MSI_EXT_DEST_ID        15          guest checks this feature bit
> > > > >                                                 before using extended destination
> > > > >                                                 ID bits in MSI address bits 11-5.
> > > > >
> > > > > +KVM_FEATURE_SEV_LIVE_MIGRATION     16          guest checks this feature bit before
> > > > > +                                               using the page encryption state
> > > > > +                                               hypercall to notify the page state
> > > > > +                                               change
> > > > > +
> > > > >  KVM_FEATURE_CLOCKSOURCE_STABLE_BIT 24          host will warn if no guest-side
> > > > >                                                 per-cpu warps are expected in
> > > > >                                                 kvmclock
> > > > > diff --git a/Documentation/virt/kvm/msr.rst b/Documentation/virt/kvm/msr.rst
> > > > > index e37a14c323d2..020245d16087 100644
> > > > > --- a/Documentation/virt/kvm/msr.rst
> > > > > +++ b/Documentation/virt/kvm/msr.rst
> > > > > @@ -376,3 +376,15 @@ data:
> > > > >         write '1' to bit 0 of the MSR, this causes the host to re-scan its queue
> > > > >         and check if there are more notifications pending. The MSR is available
> > > > >         if KVM_FEATURE_ASYNC_PF_INT is present in CPUID.
> > > > > +
> > > > > +MSR_KVM_SEV_LIVE_MIGRATION:
> > > > > +        0x4b564d08
> > > > > +
> > > > > +       Control SEV Live Migration features.
> > > > > +
> > > > > +data:
> > > > > +        Bit 0 enables (1) or disables (0) host-side SEV Live Migration feature,
> > > > > +        in other words, this is guest->host communication that it's properly
> > > > > +        handling the shared pages list.
> > > > > +
> > > > > +        All other bits are reserved.
> > > > > diff --git a/arch/x86/include/uapi/asm/kvm_para.h b/arch/x86/include/uapi/asm/kvm_para.h
> > > > > index 950afebfba88..f6bfa138874f 100644
> > > > > --- a/arch/x86/include/uapi/asm/kvm_para.h
> > > > > +++ b/arch/x86/include/uapi/asm/kvm_para.h
> > > > > @@ -33,6 +33,7 @@
> > > > >  #define KVM_FEATURE_PV_SCHED_YIELD     13
> > > > >  #define KVM_FEATURE_ASYNC_PF_INT       14
> > > > >  #define KVM_FEATURE_MSI_EXT_DEST_ID    15
> > > > > +#define KVM_FEATURE_SEV_LIVE_MIGRATION 16
> > > > >
> > > > >  #define KVM_HINTS_REALTIME      0
> > > > >
> > > > > @@ -54,6 +55,7 @@
> > > > >  #define MSR_KVM_POLL_CONTROL   0x4b564d05
> > > > >  #define MSR_KVM_ASYNC_PF_INT   0x4b564d06
> > > > >  #define MSR_KVM_ASYNC_PF_ACK   0x4b564d07
> > > > > +#define MSR_KVM_SEV_LIVE_MIGRATION     0x4b564d08
> > > > >
> > > > >  struct kvm_steal_time {
> > > > >         __u64 steal;
> > > > > @@ -136,4 +138,6 @@ struct kvm_vcpu_pv_apf_data {
> > > > >  #define KVM_PV_EOI_ENABLED KVM_PV_EOI_MASK
> > > > >  #define KVM_PV_EOI_DISABLED 0x0
> > > > >
> > > > > +#define KVM_SEV_LIVE_MIGRATION_ENABLED BIT_ULL(0)
> > > > > +
> > > > >  #endif /* _UAPI_ASM_X86_KVM_PARA_H */
> > > > > diff --git a/arch/x86/kvm/svm/sev.c b/arch/x86/kvm/svm/sev.c
> > > > > index b0d324aed515..93f42b3d3e33 100644
> > > > > --- a/arch/x86/kvm/svm/sev.c
> > > > > +++ b/arch/x86/kvm/svm/sev.c
> > > > > @@ -1627,6 +1627,16 @@ int svm_page_enc_status_hc(struct kvm *kvm, unsigned long gpa,
> > > > >         return ret;
> > > > >  }
> > > > >
> > > > > +void sev_update_migration_flags(struct kvm *kvm, u64 data)
> > > > > +{
> > > > > +       struct kvm_sev_info *sev = &to_kvm_svm(kvm)->sev_info;
> > > > > +
> > > > > +       if (!sev_guest(kvm))
> > > > > +               return;
> > > >
> > > > This should assert that userspace wanted the guest to be able to make
> > > > these calls (see more below).
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > +
> > > > > +       sev->live_migration_enabled = !!(data & KVM_SEV_LIVE_MIGRATION_ENABLED);
> > > > > +}
> > > > > +
> > > > >  int svm_get_shared_pages_list(struct kvm *kvm,
> > > > >                               struct kvm_shared_pages_list *list)
> > > > >  {
> > > > > @@ -1639,6 +1649,9 @@ int svm_get_shared_pages_list(struct kvm *kvm,
> > > > >         if (!sev_guest(kvm))
> > > > >                 return -ENOTTY;
> > > > >
> > > > > +       if (!sev->live_migration_enabled)
> > > > > +               return -EINVAL;
> > 
> > This is currently under guest control, so I'm not certain this is
> > helpful. If I called this with otherwise valid parameters, and got
> > back -EINVAL, I would probably think the bug is on my end. But it
> > could be on the guest's end! I would probably drop this, but you could
> > have KVM return an empty list of regions when this happens.
> > 
> > Alternatively, as explained below, this could call guest_pv_has instead.
> > 
> > >
> > > > > +
> > > > >         if (!list->size)
> > > > >                 return -EINVAL;
> > > > >
> > > > > diff --git a/arch/x86/kvm/svm/svm.c b/arch/x86/kvm/svm/svm.c
> > > > > index 58f89f83caab..43ea5061926f 100644
> > > > > --- a/arch/x86/kvm/svm/svm.c
> > > > > +++ b/arch/x86/kvm/svm/svm.c
> > > > > @@ -2903,6 +2903,9 @@ static int svm_set_msr(struct kvm_vcpu *vcpu, struct msr_data *msr)
> > > > >                 svm->msr_decfg = data;
> > > > >                 break;
> > > > >         }
> > > > > +       case MSR_KVM_SEV_LIVE_MIGRATION:
> > > > > +               sev_update_migration_flags(vcpu->kvm, data);
> > > > > +               break;
> > > > >         case MSR_IA32_APICBASE:
> > > > >                 if (kvm_vcpu_apicv_active(vcpu))
> > > > >                         avic_update_vapic_bar(to_svm(vcpu), data);
> > > > > @@ -3976,6 +3979,19 @@ static void svm_vcpu_after_set_cpuid(struct kvm_vcpu *vcpu)
> > > > >                         vcpu->arch.cr3_lm_rsvd_bits &= ~(1UL << (best->ebx & 0x3f));
> > > > >         }
> > > > >
> > > > > +       /*
> > > > > +        * If SEV guest then enable the Live migration feature.
> > > > > +        */
> > > > > +       if (sev_guest(vcpu->kvm)) {
> > > > > +               struct kvm_cpuid_entry2 *best;
> > > > > +
> > > > > +               best = kvm_find_cpuid_entry(vcpu, KVM_CPUID_FEATURES, 0);
> > > > > +               if (!best)
> > > > > +                       return;
> > > > > +
> > > > > +               best->eax |= (1 << KVM_FEATURE_SEV_LIVE_MIGRATION);
> > > > > +       }
> > > > > +
> > > >
> > > > Looking at this, I believe the only way for this bit to get enabled is
> > > > if userspace toggles it. There needs to be a way for userspace to
> > > > identify if the kernel underneath them does, in fact, support SEV LM.
> > > > I'm at risk for having misread these patches (it's a long series), but
> > > > I don't see anything that communicates upwards.
> > > >
> > > > This could go upward with the other paravirt features flags in
> > > > cpuid.c. It could also be an explicit KVM Capability (checked through
> > > > check_extension).
> > > >
> > > > Userspace should then have a chance to decide whether or not this
> > > > should be enabled. And when it's not enabled, the host should return a
> > > > GP in response to the hypercall. This could be configured either
> > > > through userspace stripping out the LM feature bit, or by calling a VM
> > > > scoped enable cap (KVM_VM_IOCTL_ENABLE_CAP).
> > > >
> > > > I believe the typical path for a feature like this to be configured
> > > > would be to use ENABLE_CAP.
> > >
> > > I believe we have discussed and reviewed this earlier too.
> > >
> > > To summarize this feature, the host indicates if it supports the Live
> > > Migration feature and the feature and the hypercall are only enabled on
> > > the host when the guest checks for this support and does a wrmsrl() to
> > > enable the feature. Also the guest will not make the hypercall if the
> > > host does not indicate support for it.
> > 
> > I've gone through and read this patch a bit more closely, and the
> > surrounding code. Previously, I clearly misread this and the
> > surrounding space.
> > 
> > What happens if the guest just writes to the MSR anyway? Even if it
> > didn't receive a cue to do so? I believe the hypercall would still get
> > invoked here, since the hypercall does not check if SEV live migration
> > is enabled. Similarly, the MSR for enabling it is always available,
> > even if userspace didn't ask for the cpuid bit to be set. This should
> > not happen. Userspace should be in control of a new hypercall rolling
> > out.
> > 
> > I believe my interpretation last time was that the cpuid bit was
> > getting surfaced from the host kernel to host userspace, but I don't
> > actually see that in this patch series. Another way to ask this
> > question would be "How does userspace know the kernel they are on has
> > this patch series?". It needs some way of checking whether or not the
> > kernel underneath it supports SEV live migration. Technically, I think
> > userspace could call get_cpuid, set_cpuid (with the same values), and
> > then get_cpuid again, and it would be able to infer by checking the
> > SEV LM feature flag in the KVM leaf. This seems a bit kludgy. Checking
> > support should be easy.
> > 
> > An additional question is "how does userspace choose whether live
> > migration is advertised to the guest"? I believe userspace's desire
> > for a particular value of the paravirt feature flag in CPUID get's
> > overridden when they call set cpuid, since the feature flag is set in
> > svm_vcpu_after_set_cpuid regardless of what userspace asks for.
> > Userspace should have a choice in the matter.
> > 

Actually i did some more analysis of this, and i believe you are right
about the above, feature flag gets set in svm_vcpu_after_set_cpuid.

So please ignore my comments below. 

I am still analyzing this further.

Thanks,
Ashish
> 
> To summarize, KVM (host) enables SEV live migration feature as
> following:
> 
> static void svm_vcpu_after_set_cpuid(struct kvm_vcpu *vcpu)
> {
> ...
>         /*
>          * If SEV guest then enable the Live migration feature.
>          */
>         if (sev_guest(vcpu->kvm)) {
>                 struct kvm_cpuid_entry2 *best;
> 
>                 best = kvm_find_cpuid_entry(vcpu, KVM_CPUID_FEATURES, 0);
>                 if (!best)
>                         return;
> 
>                 best->eax |= (1 << KVM_FEATURE_SEV_LIVE_MIGRATION);
>         }
> 
> ...
> ...
> 
> Later userspace can call cpuid(KVM_CPUID_FEATURES) and get the cpuid data
> and override it, for example, this is how Qemu userspace code currently
> fixups/overrides the KVM reported CPUID features : 
> 
> target/i386/kvm/kvm.c:
> 
> uint32_t kvm_arch_get_supported_cpuid(KVMState *s, uint32_t function,
>                                       uint32_t index, int reg)
> {
> ...
> ...
> 
>   cpuid = get_supported_cpuid(s);
> 
>   struct kvm_cpuid_entry2 *entry = cpuid_find_entry(cpuid, function, index);
>   if (entry) {
>       ret = cpuid_entry_get_reg(entry, reg);
>   }
>     
>   /* Fixups for the data returned by KVM, below */
> 
>   ...
>   ...
> 
>   } else if (function == KVM_CPUID_FEATURES && reg == R_EAX) {
>         /* kvm_pv_unhalt is reported by GET_SUPPORTED_CPUID, but it can't
>          * be enabled without the in-kernel irqchip
>          */
>         if (!kvm_irqchip_in_kernel()) {
>             ret &= ~(1U << KVM_FEATURE_PV_UNHALT);
>         }
>         if (kvm_irqchip_is_split()) {
>             ret |= 1U << KVM_FEATURE_MSI_EXT_DEST_ID;
>         }
>     } else if (function == KVM_CPUID_FEATURES && reg == R_EDX) {
>         ret |= 1U << KVM_HINTS_REALTIME;
>     }
>     
>     return ret;
> 
> So you can use a similar approach to override
> KVM_FEATURE_SEV_LIVE_MIGRATION feature.
> 
> Thanks,
> Ashish
> 
> > Looking at similar paravirt-y features, there's precedent for another
> > way of doing this (may be preferred over CHECK_EXTENSION/ENABLE_CAP?):
> > this could call guest_pv_has before running the hypercall. The feature
> > (KVM_FEATURE_SEV_LIVE_MIGRATION) would then need to be exposed with
> > the other paravirt features in __do_cpuid_func. The function
> > guest_pv_has would represent if userspace has decided to expose SEV
> > live migration to the guest, and the sev->live_migration_enabled would
> > indicate if the guest responded affirmatively to the CPUID bit.
> > 
> > The downside of using guest_pv_has is that, if pv enforcement is
> > disabled, guest_pv_has will always return true, which seems a bit odd
> > for a non-SEV guest. This isn't a deal breaker, but seems a bit odd
> > for say, a guest that isn't even running SEV. Using CHECK_EXTENSION
> > and ENABLE_CAP sidestep that. I'm also not certain I would call this a
> > paravirt feature.
> > 
> > > And these were your review comments on the above :
> > > I see I misunderstood how the CPUID bits get passed
> > > through: usermode can still override them. Forgot about the back and
> > > forth for CPUID with usermode.
> > >
> > > So as you mentioned, userspace can still override these and it gets a
> > > chance to decide whether or not this should be enabled.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Ashish
> > 
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > Steve

  reply	other threads:[~2021-02-06 13:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 71+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-02-04  0:35 [PATCH v10 00/17] Add AMD SEV guest live migration support Ashish Kalra
2021-02-04  0:36 ` [PATCH v10 01/16] KVM: SVM: Add KVM_SEV SEND_START command Ashish Kalra
2021-02-04  0:36 ` [PATCH v10 02/16] KVM: SVM: Add KVM_SEND_UPDATE_DATA command Ashish Kalra
2021-02-04  0:37 ` [PATCH v10 03/16] KVM: SVM: Add KVM_SEV_SEND_FINISH command Ashish Kalra
2021-02-04  0:37 ` [PATCH v10 04/16] KVM: SVM: Add support for KVM_SEV_RECEIVE_START command Ashish Kalra
2021-02-04  0:37 ` [PATCH v10 05/16] KVM: SVM: Add KVM_SEV_RECEIVE_UPDATE_DATA command Ashish Kalra
2021-02-04  0:37 ` [PATCH v10 06/16] KVM: SVM: Add KVM_SEV_RECEIVE_FINISH command Ashish Kalra
2021-02-04  0:38 ` [PATCH v10 07/16] KVM: x86: Add AMD SEV specific Hypercall3 Ashish Kalra
2021-02-04  0:38 ` [PATCH v10 08/16] KVM: X86: Introduce KVM_HC_PAGE_ENC_STATUS hypercall Ashish Kalra
2021-02-04 16:03   ` Tom Lendacky
2021-02-05  1:44   ` Steve Rutherford
2021-02-05  3:32     ` Ashish Kalra
2021-02-04  0:39 ` [PATCH v10 09/16] mm: x86: Invoke hypercall when page encryption status is changed Ashish Kalra
2021-02-04  0:39 ` [PATCH v10 10/16] KVM: x86: Introduce KVM_GET_SHARED_PAGES_LIST ioctl Ashish Kalra
2021-02-04 16:14   ` Tom Lendacky
2021-02-04 16:34     ` Ashish Kalra
2021-02-17  1:03   ` Sean Christopherson
2021-02-17 14:00     ` Kalra, Ashish
2021-02-17 16:13       ` Sean Christopherson
2021-02-18  6:48         ` Kalra, Ashish
2021-02-18 16:39           ` Sean Christopherson
2021-02-18 17:05             ` Kalra, Ashish
2021-02-18 17:50               ` Sean Christopherson
2021-02-18 18:32     ` Kalra, Ashish
2021-02-24 17:51       ` Ashish Kalra
2021-02-24 18:22         ` Sean Christopherson
2021-02-25 20:20           ` Ashish Kalra
2021-02-25 22:59             ` Steve Rutherford
2021-02-25 23:24               ` Steve Rutherford
2021-02-26 14:04               ` Ashish Kalra
2021-02-26 17:44                 ` Sean Christopherson
2021-03-02 14:55                   ` Ashish Kalra
2021-03-02 15:15                     ` Ashish Kalra
2021-03-03 18:54                     ` Will Deacon
2021-03-03 19:32                       ` Ashish Kalra
2021-03-09 19:10                       ` Ashish Kalra
2021-03-11 18:14                       ` Ashish Kalra
2021-03-11 20:48                         ` Steve Rutherford
2021-03-19 17:59                           ` Ashish Kalra
2021-04-02  1:40                             ` Steve Rutherford
2021-04-02 11:09                               ` Ashish Kalra
2021-03-08 10:40                   ` Ashish Kalra
2021-03-08 19:51                     ` Sean Christopherson
2021-03-08 21:05                       ` Ashish Kalra
2021-03-08 21:11                       ` Brijesh Singh
2021-03-08 21:32                         ` Ashish Kalra
2021-03-08 21:51                         ` Steve Rutherford
2021-03-09 19:42                           ` Sean Christopherson
2021-03-10  3:42                           ` Kalra, Ashish
2021-03-10  3:47                             ` Steve Rutherford
2021-03-08 21:48                       ` Steve Rutherford
2021-02-17  1:06   ` Sean Christopherson
2021-02-04  0:39 ` [PATCH v10 11/16] KVM: x86: Introduce KVM_SET_SHARED_PAGES_LIST ioctl Ashish Kalra
2021-02-04  0:39 ` [PATCH v10 12/16] KVM: x86: Introduce new KVM_FEATURE_SEV_LIVE_MIGRATION feature & Custom MSR Ashish Kalra
2021-02-05  0:56   ` Steve Rutherford
2021-02-05  3:07     ` Ashish Kalra
2021-02-06  2:54       ` Steve Rutherford
2021-02-06  4:49         ` Ashish Kalra
2021-02-06  5:46         ` Ashish Kalra
2021-02-06 13:56           ` Ashish Kalra [this message]
2021-02-08  0:28             ` Ashish Kalra
2021-02-08 22:50               ` Steve Rutherford
2021-02-10 20:36                 ` Ashish Kalra
2021-02-10 22:01                   ` Steve Rutherford
2021-02-10 22:05                     ` Steve Rutherford
2021-02-16 23:20   ` Sean Christopherson
2021-02-04  0:40 ` [PATCH v10 13/16] EFI: Introduce the new AMD Memory Encryption GUID Ashish Kalra
2021-02-04  0:40 ` [PATCH v10 14/16] KVM: x86: Add guest support for detecting and enabling SEV Live Migration feature Ashish Kalra
2021-02-18 17:56   ` Sean Christopherson
2021-02-04  0:40 ` [PATCH v10 15/16] KVM: x86: Add kexec support for SEV Live Migration Ashish Kalra
2021-02-04  0:40 ` [PATCH v10 16/16] KVM: SVM: Bypass DBG_DECRYPT API calls for unencrypted guest memory Ashish Kalra

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