From: Rob Herring <robh@kernel.org>
To: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@kernel.org>
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Subject: Re: [RFT PATCH v3 12/27] of/address: Add infrastructure to declare MMIO as non-posted
Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2021 14:13:06 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210308211306.GA2920998@robh.at.kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAK8P3a0_GBB-VYFO5NaySyBJDN2Ra-WMH4WfFrnzgOejmJVG8g@mail.gmail.com>
On Mon, Mar 08, 2021 at 09:29:54PM +0100, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 8, 2021 at 4:56 PM Rob Herring <robh@kernel.org> wrote:
> > On Fri, Mar 5, 2021 at 2:17 PM Arnd Bergmann <arnd@kernel.org> wrote:
> > > On Fri, Mar 5, 2021 at 7:18 PM Hector Martin <marcan@marcan.st> wrote:
> >
> > > > > What's the code path using these functions on the M1 where we need to
> > > > > return 'posted'? It's just downstream PCI mappings (PCI memory space),
> > > > > right? Those would never hit these paths because they don't have a DT
> > > > > node or if they do the memory space is not part of it. So can't the
> > > > > check just be:
> > > > >
> > > > > bool of_mmio_is_nonposted(struct device_node *np)
> > > > > {
> > > > > return np && of_machine_is_compatible("apple,arm-platform");
> > > > > }
> > > >
> > > > Yes; the implementation was trying to be generic, but AIUI we don't need
> > > > this on M1 because the PCI mappings don't go through this codepath, and
> > > > nothing else needs posted mode. My first hack was something not too
> > > > unlike this, then I was going to get rid of apple,arm-platform and just
> > > > have this be a generic mechanism with the properties, but then we added
> > > > the optimization to not do the lookups on other platforms, and now we're
> > > > coming full circle... :-)
> > >
> > > I never liked the idea of having a list of platforms that need a
> > > special hack, please let's not go back to that.
> >
> > I'm a fan of generic solutions as much as anyone, but not when there's
> > a single user. Yes, there could be more, but we haven't seen any yet
> > and Apple seems to have a knack for doing special things. I'm pretty
> > sure posted vs. non-posted has been a possibility with AXI buses from
> > the start, so it's not like this is a new thing we're going to see
> > frequently on new platforms.
>
> Ok, but if we make it a platform specific bit, I would prefer not
> to do the IORESOURCE_MEM_NONPOSTED flag either but
> instead keep the logic in the device drivers that call ioremap().
That seems like an orthogonal decision to me.
> This is obviously more work for the drivers, but at least it keeps
> the common code free of the hack while also allowing drivers to
> use ioremap_np() intentionally on other platforms.
I don't agree. The problem is within the interconnect. The device and
its driver are unaware of this.
The other idea I had was doing a compatible other than 'simple-bus' for
the bus node which could imply non-posted io and any other quirks in
Apple's bus implementation. However, something different there means
updates in lots of places (schemas, dtc checks, etc.) unless we kept
'simple-bus' as a fallback.
Let's just stick with 'nonposted-mmio', but drop 'posted-mmio'. I'd
rather know if and when we need 'posted-mmio'. It does need to be added
to the DT spec[1] and schema[2] though (GH PRs are fine for both).
> > The other situation I worry about here is another arch has implicitly
> > defaulted to non-posted instead of posted. It could just be non-posted
> > was what worked everywhere and Linux couldn't distinguish. Now someone
> > sees we have this new posted vs. non-posted handling and can optimize
> > some mappings on their platform and we have to have per arch defaults
> > (like 'dma-coherent' now).
>
> I think one of the dark secrets of MMIO is that a lot of drivers
> get the posted behavior wrong by assuming that a writel() before
> a spin_unlock() is protected by that unlock. This may in fact work
> on many architectures but is broken on PCI and on local devices
> for ARM.
>
> Having a properly working (on non-PCI) ioremap_np() interface
> would be nice here, as it could be used to document when drivers
> rely on non-posted behavior, and cause the ioremap to fail when
> running on architectures that don't support nonposted maps.
Good to know.
Rob
[1] https://github.com/devicetree-org/devicetree-specification
[2] https://github.com/devicetree-org/dt-schema
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Thread overview: 136+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-03-04 21:38 [RFT PATCH v3 00/27] Apple M1 SoC platform bring-up Hector Martin
2021-03-04 21:38 ` [RFT PATCH v3 01/27] arm64: Cope with CPUs stuck in VHE mode Hector Martin
2021-03-24 18:05 ` Will Deacon
2021-03-24 20:00 ` Marc Zyngier
2021-03-26 7:54 ` Hector Martin
2021-03-04 21:38 ` [RFT PATCH v3 02/27] dt-bindings: vendor-prefixes: Add apple prefix Hector Martin
2021-03-08 20:26 ` Rob Herring
2021-03-04 21:38 ` [RFT PATCH v3 03/27] dt-bindings: arm: apple: Add bindings for Apple ARM platforms Hector Martin
2021-03-05 10:16 ` Linus Walleij
2021-03-08 20:27 ` Rob Herring
2021-03-04 21:38 ` [RFT PATCH v3 04/27] dt-bindings: arm: cpus: Add apple,firestorm & icestorm compatibles Hector Martin
2021-03-08 20:27 ` Rob Herring
2021-03-04 21:38 ` [RFT PATCH v3 05/27] arm64: cputype: Add CPU implementor & types for the Apple M1 cores Hector Martin
2021-03-24 18:13 ` Will Deacon
2021-03-04 21:38 ` [RFT PATCH v3 06/27] dt-bindings: timer: arm,arch_timer: Add interrupt-names support Hector Martin
2021-03-05 10:18 ` Linus Walleij
2021-03-08 11:12 ` Marc Zyngier
2021-03-08 17:14 ` Tony Lindgren
2021-03-08 20:38 ` Rob Herring
2021-03-08 22:42 ` Marc Zyngier
2021-03-09 16:11 ` Rob Herring
2021-03-09 20:28 ` Hector Martin
2021-03-04 21:38 ` [RFT PATCH v3 07/27] arm64: arch_timer: implement support for interrupt-names Hector Martin
2021-03-05 10:19 ` Linus Walleij
2021-03-08 11:13 ` Marc Zyngier
2021-03-04 21:38 ` [RFT PATCH v3 08/27] asm-generic/io.h: Add a non-posted variant of ioremap() Hector Martin
2021-03-05 14:45 ` Andy Shevchenko
2021-03-05 15:19 ` Hector Martin
2021-03-08 11:20 ` Marc Zyngier
2021-03-24 18:12 ` Will Deacon
2021-03-24 19:09 ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-03-25 14:07 ` Hector Martin
2021-03-25 14:49 ` Will Deacon
2021-03-04 21:38 ` [RFT PATCH v3 09/27] docs: driver-api: device-io: Document I/O access functions Hector Martin
2021-03-05 10:22 ` Linus Walleij
2021-03-04 21:38 ` [RFT PATCH v3 10/27] docs: driver-api: device-io: Document ioremap() variants & access funcs Hector Martin
2021-03-05 10:25 ` Linus Walleij
2021-03-05 15:09 ` Andy Shevchenko
2021-03-05 15:51 ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-03-09 20:29 ` Hector Martin
2021-03-04 21:38 ` [RFT PATCH v3 11/27] arm64: Implement ioremap_np() to map MMIO as nGnRnE Hector Martin
2021-03-08 11:22 ` Marc Zyngier
2021-03-24 18:18 ` Will Deacon
2021-03-04 21:38 ` [RFT PATCH v3 12/27] of/address: Add infrastructure to declare MMIO as non-posted Hector Martin
2021-03-05 10:28 ` Linus Walleij
2021-03-05 15:13 ` Andy Shevchenko
2021-03-05 15:55 ` Hector Martin
2021-03-05 16:08 ` Andy Shevchenko
2021-03-05 16:43 ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-03-05 17:19 ` Hector Martin
2021-03-05 16:05 ` Rob Herring
2021-03-05 17:39 ` Rob Herring
2021-03-05 18:18 ` Hector Martin
2021-03-05 21:17 ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-03-08 15:56 ` Rob Herring
2021-03-08 20:29 ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-03-08 21:13 ` Rob Herring [this message]
2021-03-08 21:56 ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-03-09 15:48 ` Rob Herring
2021-03-09 20:23 ` Hector Martin
2021-03-09 22:06 ` Rob Herring
2021-03-10 8:26 ` Hector Martin
2021-03-10 17:01 ` Rob Herring
2021-03-11 9:12 ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-03-11 12:11 ` Hector Martin
2021-03-11 13:35 ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-03-11 16:07 ` Rob Herring
2021-03-11 16:48 ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-03-11 18:10 ` Rob Herring
2021-03-12 10:20 ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-03-09 11:14 ` Linus Walleij
2021-03-09 12:41 ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-03-09 15:40 ` Linus Walleij
2021-03-04 21:38 ` [RFT PATCH v3 13/27] arm64: Add Apple vendor-specific system registers Hector Martin
2021-03-24 18:38 ` Will Deacon
2021-03-24 18:59 ` Mark Rutland
2021-03-24 19:04 ` Will Deacon
2021-03-26 6:23 ` Hector Martin
2021-03-04 21:38 ` [RFT PATCH v3 14/27] arm64: move ICH_ sysreg bits from arm-gic-v3.h to sysreg.h Hector Martin
2021-03-08 11:39 ` Marc Zyngier
2021-03-24 18:23 ` Will Deacon
2021-03-04 21:38 ` [RFT PATCH v3 15/27] dt-bindings: interrupt-controller: Add DT bindings for apple-aic Hector Martin
2021-03-08 21:16 ` Rob Herring
2021-03-04 21:38 ` [RFT PATCH v3 16/27] irqchip/apple-aic: Add support for the Apple Interrupt Controller Hector Martin
2021-03-05 15:05 ` Andy Shevchenko
2021-03-08 11:50 ` Marc Zyngier
2021-03-08 12:02 ` Andy Shevchenko
2021-03-26 13:40 ` Hector Martin
2021-03-08 13:31 ` Marc Zyngier
2021-03-26 7:57 ` Hector Martin
2021-03-24 19:57 ` Will Deacon
2021-03-26 8:58 ` Hector Martin
2021-03-29 12:04 ` Will Deacon
2021-04-01 13:16 ` Hector Martin
2021-03-04 21:38 ` [RFT PATCH v3 17/27] arm64: Kconfig: Introduce CONFIG_ARCH_APPLE Hector Martin
2021-03-08 15:35 ` Marc Zyngier
2021-03-09 20:30 ` Hector Martin
2021-03-04 21:38 ` [RFT PATCH v3 18/27] tty: serial: samsung_tty: Separate S3C64XX ops structure Hector Martin
2021-03-05 10:30 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2021-03-04 21:38 ` [RFT PATCH v3 19/27] tty: serial: samsung_tty: Add ucon_mask parameter Hector Martin
2021-03-05 10:34 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2021-03-04 21:38 ` [RFT PATCH v3 20/27] tty: serial: samsung_tty: Add s3c24xx_port_type Hector Martin
2021-03-05 10:49 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2021-03-04 21:38 ` [RFT PATCH v3 21/27] tty: serial: samsung_tty: IRQ rework Hector Martin
2021-03-05 10:51 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2021-03-05 15:17 ` Andy Shevchenko
2021-03-05 16:16 ` Hector Martin
2021-03-05 16:20 ` Andy Shevchenko
2021-03-05 16:29 ` Hector Martin
2021-03-07 11:34 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2021-03-07 16:01 ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-03-07 19:51 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2021-03-04 21:38 ` [RFT PATCH v3 22/27] tty: serial: samsung_tty: Use devm_ioremap_resource Hector Martin
2021-03-05 10:54 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2021-03-05 15:19 ` Andy Shevchenko
2021-03-04 21:38 ` [RFT PATCH v3 23/27] dt-bindings: serial: samsung: Add apple,s5l-uart compatible Hector Martin
2021-03-08 21:17 ` Rob Herring
2021-03-04 21:38 ` [RFT PATCH v3 24/27] tty: serial: samsung_tty: Add support for Apple UARTs Hector Martin
2021-03-05 10:58 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2021-03-05 15:28 ` Andy Shevchenko
2021-03-05 17:04 ` Hector Martin
2021-03-07 11:40 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2021-03-04 21:39 ` [RFT PATCH v3 25/27] tty: serial: samsung_tty: Add earlycon " Hector Martin
2021-03-05 10:55 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2021-03-10 23:11 ` Linus Walleij
2021-03-04 21:39 ` [RFT PATCH v3 26/27] dt-bindings: display: Add apple,simple-framebuffer Hector Martin
2021-03-08 21:18 ` Rob Herring
2021-03-09 16:37 ` Linus Walleij
2021-03-09 20:35 ` Hector Martin
2021-03-04 21:39 ` [RFT PATCH v3 27/27] arm64: apple: Add initial Apple Mac mini (M1, 2020) devicetree Hector Martin
2021-03-05 11:03 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2021-03-05 11:14 ` Hector Martin
2021-03-05 11:45 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2021-03-05 15:59 ` Mark Kettenis
2021-03-05 16:50 ` Hector Martin
2021-03-05 10:11 ` [RFT PATCH v3 00/27] Apple M1 SoC platform bring-up Hector Martin
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