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From: "Clément Léger" <clement.leger@bootlin.com>
To: Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch>
Cc: "Vivien Didelot" <vivien.didelot@gmail.com>,
	"Florian Fainelli" <f.fainelli@gmail.com>,
	"Vladimir Oltean" <olteanv@gmail.com>,
	"David S . Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	"Jakub Kicinski" <kuba@kernel.org>,
	"Paolo Abeni" <pabeni@redhat.com>,
	"Rob Herring" <robh+dt@kernel.org>,
	"Krzysztof Kozlowski" <krzk+dt@kernel.org>,
	"Geert Uytterhoeven" <geert+renesas@glider.be>,
	"Magnus Damm" <magnus.damm@gmail.com>,
	"Heiner Kallweit" <hkallweit1@gmail.com>,
	"Russell King" <linux@armlinux.org.uk>,
	"Thomas Petazzoni" <thomas.petazzoni@bootlin.com>,
	"Herve Codina" <herve.codina@bootlin.com>,
	"Miquèl Raynal" <miquel.raynal@bootlin.com>,
	"Milan Stevanovic" <milan.stevanovic@se.com>,
	"Jimmy Lalande" <jimmy.lalande@se.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, devicetree@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-renesas-soc@vger.kernel.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next 09/12] ARM: dts: r9a06g032: describe MII converter
Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2022 16:38:53 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20220415163853.683c0b6d@fixe.home> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Yll+Tpnwo5410B9H@lunn.ch>

Le Fri, 15 Apr 2022 16:16:46 +0200,
Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch> a écrit :

> On Fri, Apr 15, 2022 at 10:24:53AM +0200, Clément Léger wrote:
> > Le Fri, 15 Apr 2022 01:22:01 +0200,
> > Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch> a écrit :
> >   
> > > On Thu, Apr 14, 2022 at 02:22:47PM +0200, Clément Léger wrote:  
> > > > Add the MII converter node which describes the MII converter that is
> > > > present on the RZ/N1 SoC.    
> > > 
> > > Do you have a board which actually uses this? I just noticed that
> > > renesas,miic-cfg-mode is missing, it is a required property, but maybe
> > > the board .dts file provides it?
> > > 
> > >     Andrew  
> > 
> > Hi Andrew, yes, I have a board that defines and use that.  
> 
> Great. Do you plan to mainline it? It is always nice to see a user.

Although we are working on a specific customer board, we will probably
try to mailine this support for the RZ/N1D-DB.

> 
> > The
> > renesas,miic-cfg-mode actually configures the muxes that are present on
> > the SoC. They allows to mux the various ethernet components (Sercos
> > Controller, HSR Controller, Ethercat, GMAC1, RTOS-GMAC).
> > All these muxes are actually controller by a single register
> > CONVCTRL_MODE. You can actually see the muxes that are present in the
> > manual [1] at Section 8 and the CONVCTRL_MODE possible values are listed
> > on page 180.
> > 
> > This seems to be something that is board dependent because the muxing
> > controls the MII converter outputs which depends on the board layout.  
> 
> Does it also mux the MDIO lines as well?

Nope, the MDIO lines are muxed using the pinctrl driver.

> 
> We might want to consider the name 'mux'. Linux already has the
> concept of a mux, e.g. an MDIO mux, and i2c mux etc. These muxes have
> one master device, which with the aid of the mux you can connect to
> multiple busses. And at runtime you flip the mux as needed to access
> the devices on the multiple slave busses. For MDIO you typically see
> this when you have multiple Ethernet switch, each has its own slave
> MDIO bus, and you use the mux to connect the single SOC MDIO bus
> master to the various slave busses as needed to perform a bus
> transaction. I2C is similar, you can have multiple SFPs, either with
> there own IC2 bus, connected via a mux to a single I2C bus controller
> on the SoC.
> 
> I've not looked at the data sheet yet, but it sounds like it operates
> in a different way, so we might want to avoid 'mux'.

Indeed, Let's not refer to it as mux in the code at all. If using your
proposal below, I guess we could avoid that.

> 
> > I'm open to any modification for this setup which does not really fit
> > any abstraction that I may have seen.
> > 
> > [1]
> > https://www.renesas.com/us/en/document/mah/rzn1d-group-rzn1s-group-rzn1l-group-users-manual-system-introduction-multiplexing-electrical-and  
> 
> O.K, looking at figure 8.1.
> 
> What the user wants to express is something like:
> 
> Connect MI_CONV5 to SECOS PORTA
> Connect MI_CONV4 to ETHCAT PORTB
> Connect MI_CONV3 to SWITCH PORTC
> Connect MI_CONV2 to SWITCH PORTD
> 
> plus maybe
> 
> Connect SWITCH PORTIN to RTOS

Yes, that is correct.

> 
> So i guess i would express the DT bindings like this, 5 values, and
> let the driver then try to figure out the value you need to put in the
> register, or return -EINVAL. For DT bindings we try to avoid magic
> values which get written into registers. We prefer a higher level
> description, and then let the driver figure out how to actually
> implement that.

Ok, looks like a more flexible way to doing it. Let's go with something
like this:

renesas,miic-port-connection = <PORTIN_GMAC2>, <MAC2>, <SWITCH_PORTC>,
<SWITCH_PORTB>, <SWITCH_PORTA>;





-- 
Clément Léger,
Embedded Linux and Kernel engineer at Bootlin
https://bootlin.com

  reply	other threads:[~2022-04-15 14:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 73+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-04-14 12:22 [PATCH net-next 00/12] add support for Renesas RZ/N1 ethernet subsystem devices Clément Léger
2022-04-14 12:22 ` [PATCH net-next 01/12] net: dsa: add support for Renesas RZ/N1 A5PSW switch tag code Clément Léger
2022-04-14 13:44   ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-04-14 12:22 ` [PATCH net-next 02/12] net: dsa: add Renesas RZ/N1 switch tag driver Clément Léger
2022-04-14 14:22   ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-04-14 14:35     ` Clément Léger
2022-04-14 15:11       ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-04-14 16:18         ` Clément Léger
2022-04-14 16:23           ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-04-15  7:23             ` Clément Léger
2022-04-14 22:50   ` Andrew Lunn
2022-04-14 12:22 ` [PATCH net-next 03/12] dt-bindings: net: pcs: add bindings for Renesas RZ/N1 MII converter Clément Léger
2022-04-14 18:59   ` Rob Herring
2022-04-19 13:43   ` Rob Herring
2022-04-19 15:00     ` Clément Léger
2022-04-20 20:11       ` Rob Herring
2022-04-21  7:35         ` Clément Léger
2022-04-14 12:22 ` [PATCH net-next 04/12] net: pcs: add Renesas MII converter driver Clément Léger
2022-04-14 12:49   ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-04-14 15:14     ` Clément Léger
2022-04-20 13:25   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-04-14 12:22 ` [PATCH net-next 05/12] dt-bindings: net: dsa: add bindings for Renesas RZ/N1 Advanced 5 port switch Clément Léger
2022-04-14 18:59   ` Rob Herring
2022-04-27 12:20   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-04-27 12:56     ` Clément Léger
2022-04-14 12:22 ` [PATCH net-next 06/12] net: dsa: rzn1-a5psw: add Renesas RZ/N1 advanced 5 port switch driver Clément Léger
2022-04-14 13:02   ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-04-15  8:40     ` Clément Léger
2022-04-15  8:52       ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-04-14 14:47   ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-04-14 17:51     ` Andrew Lunn
2022-04-15  9:34     ` Clément Léger
2022-04-15 10:55       ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-04-15 11:02         ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-04-15 11:14           ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-04-15 11:23             ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-04-15 12:01               ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-04-15 11:05         ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-04-15 12:31           ` Clément Léger
2022-04-15 12:28         ` Clément Léger
2022-04-15 12:41           ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-04-14 17:55   ` Andrew Lunn
2022-04-15 12:33     ` Clément Léger
2022-04-14 12:22 ` [PATCH net-next 07/12] net: dsa: rzn1-a5psw: add statistics support Clément Léger
2022-04-14 17:34   ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-04-15 12:42     ` Clément Léger
2022-04-14 23:16   ` Andrew Lunn
2022-04-15 12:04     ` Clément Léger
2022-04-15 13:37       ` Andrew Lunn
2022-04-15 13:44         ` Clément Léger
2022-04-14 12:22 ` [PATCH net-next 08/12] net: dsa: rzn1-a5psw: add FDB support Clément Léger
2022-04-14 17:51   ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-04-20  8:16     ` Clément Léger
2022-04-20 19:52       ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-04-21  7:38         ` Clément Léger
2022-04-14 12:22 ` [PATCH net-next 09/12] ARM: dts: r9a06g032: describe MII converter Clément Léger
2022-04-14 23:22   ` Andrew Lunn
2022-04-15  8:24     ` Clément Léger
2022-04-15 14:16       ` Andrew Lunn
2022-04-15 14:38         ` Clément Léger [this message]
2022-04-15 15:12           ` Andrew Lunn
2022-04-15 15:29             ` Clément Léger
2022-04-15 16:19               ` Andrew Lunn
2022-04-15 16:45                 ` Clément Léger
2022-04-16 13:48                   ` Andrew Lunn
2022-04-19  9:03                     ` Clément Léger
2022-04-19 12:57                       ` Andrew Lunn
2022-04-20 20:16                 ` Rob Herring
2022-04-14 12:22 ` [PATCH net-next 10/12] ARM: dts: r9a06g032: describe GMAC2 Clément Léger
2022-04-21  9:31   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-04-14 12:22 ` [PATCH net-next 11/12] ARM: dts: r9a06g032: describe switch Clément Léger
2022-04-21  9:34   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-04-14 12:22 ` [PATCH net-next 12/12] MAINTAINERS: add Renesas RZ/N1 switch related driver entry Clément Léger

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